TIER 39 has been released

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  • warrior202warrior202 Experienced Member Registered Users 401 Posts
    amsoft2000 wrote: »
    First thing ... I never said it was easy, understand that it's NOT impossible. No defense is impossible to defeat under "normal" circumstances.

    Look at it this way, my approach is to take whatever the game allows and NOT what it should allow ...
    ... even if it makes no sense. LOL

    So while I agree in principal and since logic would dictate that high TECH POWER on an ASSAULT or TESLA would be required to even be able to have a fighting chance vs. a maximum shielded MDU, this is not always the case.

    We go back and forth with OFFENSE vs. DEFENSE like a pendulum, but once you realize that what you see on the screen is all an illusion and start viewing the game from the "CKS match maker's" POV, some intriguing insights become apparent.

    There are many examples of these "imbalances" (inconsistencies) ...
    ... like after you reach a certain weapons rating, it becomes next to impossible to win even though you have a stronger weapon? Grenades that are worthless to a Level 380 Player @ TIER 39 are quite lethal for a Level 200 Player @ TIER 21, Support DRONES that could NOT be killed at lower health levels are killed with slingshots at the higher levels ... etc etc

    These are counter-intuitive occurrence(s) that will slide by most players.

    I track the statistics and play the numbers is all; the only thing that matters is the outcome of the battle and NOT how I got there; I guess it's the professional gambler (once was) in me. :)
    (I remember one of the first things I noticed as a "rookie" was that CKS was the perfect platform for casino gambling LOL).

    I have always tried to encourage GLU to "improve" our gaming experience, but I now believe that this was (is) all intentional, for "The House" NEVER loses.

    You see, "normal" players following the rules would take a difficult battle and say ...
    ... "If I get a stronger weapon then the battles will get easier ...";
    I know that if I went out and grabbed a 40.5 Weapon and increased the TECH POWER, for example, I would run into a brick wall vs. your MDUs. Long time ago, we had a debate about whether opponents got stronger OR weapons got weaker as we progressed in the game ...
    ... that was my first insight.

    Another thing you might consider is the color coding that the match maker assigns to an opponent ...
    ... if your defense was too powerful for my offense, you would be color coded RED, right?
    On the contrary your colored GREEN so the match maker has determined that I have an excellent chance of winning ...
    ... all you need to figure out is why and how it came to that conclusion?

    Software bug or glitch ... intentional or not ... it is what it is.

    What can I tell you. SMH :cool:

    Yeah i need to create more analytics to understand all better way with help of more players (my clan mates).. then i can conclude is it really good to invest time in upgrading mdu by thinking we will have strongest defense or glu will set my base/mdu power based on opponent tech power/level which is really stupid job of glu and hard to digest for me now. Then 340 level player without tech power can also win me? very wierd. For me, not possible..

    Green/red color is decided based on weapon power vs. base power.. I am sure Glu is not so smart to add mdu strength also to change their color code logic. Mdu power and drone power has no relation with color code now.. so thearotically having green sign will always be easy, might not work if we dont check mdu strength as well..

    I will let you know my analysis practically in 2 days to solve this stupid mystery..
    Game is just for FUN. Enjoy it guys.
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    warrior202 wrote: »
    Yeah i need to create more analytics to understand all better way with help of more players (my clan mates).. then i can conclude is it really good to invest time in upgrading mdu by thinking we will have strongest defense or glu will set my base/mdu power based on opponent tech power/level which is really stupid job of glu and hard to digest for me now. Then 340 level player without tech power can also win me? very wierd. For me, not possible..

    Green/red color is decided based on weapon power vs. base power.. I am sure Glu is not so smart to add mdu strength also to change their color code logic. Mdu power and drone power has no relation with color code now.. so thearotically having green sign will always be easy, might not work if we dont check mdu strength as well..

    I will let you know my analysis practically in 2 days to solve this stupid mystery..

    You may be right about color coding of opponents including MDUs, but I remember before we started getting "cloned" drones, the drone did play a part in that calculation ... much stronger drones resulted in RED color coding.

    Now as far as your CLAN MATES and as far as building a "Clan Defense", I have seen no such aberrations ... probably because the PvP Match Maker doesn't enter into the equation. For example, there are only maybe 3-4 players in my clan right now, that would be able to give you a fight during CLAN WARS.

    Now make no mistake about what I've stated, that Level 340 Player with no TP could be employing some sort of hack and there's no way to determine that for sure, BUT ...
    ... GLU can correct this whenever they decide that it's to their benefit to do so.

    Most of these strange scoring trends and battle anomalies all started when GLU introduced the "bot" almost 2 years ago. I remember quite clearly that players that had maximum defenses and the best weapons, had all kinds of problems winning, for awhile. This new way of choosing and creating battle scenarios was to allow every player (rookies and veterans alike) an EQUAL chance at winning PvP.

    The most memorable was a lower tier player with just a SNIPER and ASSAULT reach the TOP of the Global Leaderboard. Assuming he actually fought those battles (I don't care how he paid for them) ...
    ... that was quite an eye opener. :cool:

    The backlash that followed was, "How can a lower level player reach RANK #1 with those weapons?".

    Sound familiar? We've been complaining about essentially the same thing ever since.

    One last noteworthy comment, once you pass that threshold on MDU Development, and since you can never go back, you must keep moving forward ... that's the trap.

    *** SMILES ***
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
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    This is what I was NOT hoping for ...
    ... a mass exodus of players; it's bad enough when players stop competing, but when they no longer bother to turn on their devices or start the game itself, we have a serious problem and I see no way out.

    I'm not only seeing larger (un-emptied) vaults on a regular basis, but I am also seeing the same players 4-5 times a day and I'm barely fighting, 50-100 PvP Battles per day ... the herd is definitely thinning out.

    These all were (are) higher level players as well ...
    ... what's critical to this game's success, I think, is replacing veteran players with newer players and that doesn't appear to be happening.

    We should know something soon; this week hopefully.

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • try_againtry_again Senior Member Registered Users 1,302 Posts
    The game has matured so far, that a new player would have to be a rich super star to mount an effort to scale 39 levels. The days of fairly new players being able to win weapons, and not be destroyed by their power in match ups has past.

    The most fun part of the game, winning weapons, has also now been eclipsed by the screwed up prize structure as well. No wonder veterans are leaving this game, and new blood not bothering with an otherwise excellent first person shooter.

    Something has to change, or this game is doomed. And it wasn't the tower, or MDU's.
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    T-PLUS* 21 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Region and/or Defense Tier.
    T-PLUS* 21 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global Invasion Events.
    T-PLUS* 21 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global or VIP Events.

    Today would have marked the arrival of TIER 40 (using the "old school" schedule); it was NOT to be.

    FOR POSTERITY:


    TOP 10: 40.5 BIRCH MKII ASSAULT - 68.72T (Weapon).
    TOP 30: 40.5 BIRCH MKII ASSAULT - 68.72T (20 Parts).

    The VIP Event Lineup is at least the 4th such offering of essentially the same weapons:

    @7,000 GOLD: 40.5 TOMB MKII TESLA - 123.7T-189.67T - The Undisputed Champion.
    @5,750 GOLD: 40.0 BEAR MKII ASSAULT - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 SR Standard Bearer".
    @3,500 GOLD: 39.5 BELLOWS MKII TESLA - 70.09T-103.08T - Not Bad ... Not Bad At All.

    @PARTS: 40.0 DEER MKII SNIPER - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 LR Standard Bearer".

    The "magic number" for this Battle Cycle (should be) ... 98,959.36B (99T) ...
    ... then again it could be (remains at) ... 49,479.68 (49T) Sort of depends on your POV.

    Another item to note is that the 40.0 BIRCH MKII ASSAULT (68.72T) is roughly 36% less effective than the 40.5 LINDEN MKII ASSAULT (93.46T) offered 3 weeks ago in a similar event ...

    -- OR --

    2 months ago (02/09) when the 40.5 LINDEN MKII ASSAULT first appeared ...
    ... who would have ever thought a 2 month old weapon, of the same rating, could be a better weapon?

    The slide into oblivion continues ...

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    Good Morning Agents ...

    I figure either he likes dressing up like a woman OR enjoys looking at himself ...
    ... maybe it's an enemy distraction tactic or technique?
    The SCORPION is immune from such distractions during battle; all I see is a target. :cool:

    Screenshot_20170418-052532.png?psid=1

    Beware ... I'm coming for you STALLION. ;)

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • GiulistallionGiulistallion Experienced Member Registered Users 145 Posts
    ;-))))))))
    "Human beings must have action; and they will make it if they cannot find it" :cool:
  • MjulienMjulien Experienced Member Registered Users 119 Posts
    Is it me or is the global event a repeat of the first global invasion event? Same prizes????
    MJ
  • try_againtry_again Senior Member Registered Users 1,302 Posts
    Mjulien wrote: »
    Is it me or is the global event a repeat of the first global invasion event? Same prizes????

    The Scorpion tells all (just before your post.)
    The very first time the KRASNOLUDEK was offered as a prize was on 01/26/2017
  • MjulienMjulien Experienced Member Registered Users 119 Posts
    Okay...I just reinstalled the game no more than two weeks ago...took some time off. I'm havng MIRN flashbacks
    MJ
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    MIRN flashbacks ... now that's funny. :)

    MIRN was doomed the day it was released; didn't last much more than several months. I'm not sure what decision processes are in place at GLU and who am I to question those decisions ...
    ... one thing is certain, these people know NOTHING about those who actually play video games.

    When you have a winner, you improve on what works, eliminate what doesn't and NOT completely change the game's core strategy ...
    ... in my humble opinion. :cool:

    To bet the farm on a handful of players, expecting them to spend thousands per week, is just plain stupid and short-sighted.

    So what worked? ... Prizes ... prizes ... and better prizes ... for EVERYONE ...
    ... close the "rabbit holes" and cleanup the code ...
    ... what does it actually cost GLU to award "virtual" prizes anyway?

    Even an idiot can figure that one out.

    *** SMH ***
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • MjulienMjulien Experienced Member Registered Users 119 Posts
    That's one thing with Glu...they never communicate what's going on. They never tell and never ask us. The game support is gone it seems too.
    MJ
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    DRONE and BASE:
    BASE: 54.98T (ALPHA-OSCAR @ 0%); LEVEL: 385; CASH: 60.0T+; HIGH VAULT: 2.56B.
    DRONE: 12.61T (Power) - 370/390 (Level) - 96/3660 (XP) - 65.28T (Health)
    DRONE WEAPONS: MG (12.37T-L1), RL (12.37T-L1), HR (9.45T-L2), SG (9.45T-L2)
    DRONE WEAPONS PARTS: (2 x 12.37T-RL)
    ..... 1.07T: MG (520); HR (520); RL (520); SG (520)
    ..... 6.87T: MG (1529); HR (1456); RL (1459); SG (1409)
    ..... 8.59T: MG (643); HR (646); RL (599); SG (664)
    ..... 9.45T: MG (001); RL (001)

    FUSES:
    000 x TIER 35 (XP-62); 000 x TIER 36 (XP-64); 000 x TIER 37 (XP-66);

    WEAPONS:
    SNIPER: 40.0 DEER MKII (acquired 04/18) @ 100% (98.96T-1350).
    TESLA: 39.5 BELLOWS MKII (acquired 05/05) @ 100% (103.08T-200).
    ASSAULT: 39.0 CHORT MKII (acquired 03/02) @ 100% (49.48T-2000).
    HEAVY: 39.5 ORC MKII (acquired 04/17) @ 100% (102.94T-1750).

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    T-PLUS* 28 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Region and/or Defense Tier.
    T-PLUS* 28 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global Invasion Events.
    T-PLUS* 28 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global or VIP Events.

    FOR POSTERITY:


    RANK #01: 40.5 ... 140.18T-206.16T - Greatest (Almost)
    RANK #02: 39.5 ... 70.09T-103.08T - Greater
    RANK #03: 38.5 ... 35.05T-51.54T - Great
    (First offered as a prize here: http://ggnbb.glu.com/showthread.php?237405-01-26-TESLA-GLOBAL-INVASION-EVENT-(The-Invaders-Have-Arrived)&p=539284&viewfull=1#post539284)

    *Also noteworthy is that this round of TESLAs have a lower "power rating" than the initial offerings.

    The VIP Event Lineup is at least the 5th such offering of essentially the same weapons:

    @7,000 GOLD: 40.5 MOOSE MKII SNIPER - 68.72T-112.7T.
    @5,750 GOLD: 40.0 ZIGGURAT ELITE MKII TESLA - 82.46T-148.43T.
    @3,500 GOLD: 39.5 PONY MKII SNIPER - 46.73T-68.72T.

    @PARTS: 40.0 DEER MKII SNIPER - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 LR Standard Bearer".

    The "magic number" for this Battle Cycle (should be) ... 98,959.36B (99T) ...
    ... then again it could be (remains at) ... 49,479.68 (49T) Sort of depends on your POV.

    The very first time the KRASNOLUDEK was offered as a prize was on 01/26/2017; it took 8-weeks to complete our very 1st Global Invasion Battle Cycle which culminated in the release of TIERs 38/39.

    One week from today marks the completion of the 2nd Global Invasion Battle Cycle which would possibly indicate the release of TIERs 40/41 (I do NOT hold out much hope for this however). :(

    In fact, it's so thin, it's d.a.m.n near invisible ...
    ... but it is an "open" cycle and we know how GLU loves cycles AND treadmills. :cool:

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    T-PLUS* 35 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Region and/or Defense Tier.
    T-PLUS* 35 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global Invasion Events.
    T-PLUS* 35 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global or VIP Events.

    FOR POSTERITY:


    RANK #01-#10: 40.5 ASHIGARU MKII SNIPER ... 68.72T-61.16T - (Weapon)
    RANK #11-#30: 40.5 ASHIGARU MKII SNIPER ... 68.72T-61.16T - (Parts)

    The weapon du jour is the ASHIGARU MKII SNIPER. Today also marks the start of what would have been the 3rd Global (Invasion) Battle Cycle which means we've been caught in a "temporal freeze" for more than 16 weeks.

    *Again the weapon's power rating is skewed beyond coherence.

    The VIP Event Lineup is at least the 7th such offering of essentially the same weapons:

    @7,000 GOLD: 40.5 MAUSOLEUM MKII TESLA - 103.08T-169.05T.
    @5,750 GOLD: 40.0 BEAR MKII ASSAULT - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 SR Standard Bearer".
    @3,500 GOLD: 39.5 BELLOWS MKII TESLA - 70.09T-103.08T.

    @PARTS: 40.0 DEER MKII SNIPER - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 LR Standard Bearer".

    The "magic number" for this Battle Cycle (should be) ... 98,959.36B (99T) ...
    ... then again, the "magic number" for the Battle Cycle (could be as high as) ... 197,918.72B (198T) ...
    ... then again it could be (remains at) ... 49,479.68 (49T) Sort of depends on your POV.

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • try_againtry_again Senior Member Registered Users 1,302 Posts
    Could the Glu mind trust intentions be that they need to come up to parity on Elite regions to regular regions? It's a long ways still to go, with Elites at 21, and the current region 37. Rewriting the core basis of the game is bringing it to a quick death. Maybe Glu is color blind, and can't read red text? Why are they forcing the game into failure?

    Even my glimmer of hope is almost gone. Next step, ditch the subscription. This isn't even worth the $5 a month anymore.

    Edit: I just had a resolve as to why Jr is still enjoying this game immensely, and Sr is struggling with staying on the rat wheel of throwing diamonds away.

    It's in one word, GROWTH! GLU, please help the top level players continue to grow!
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    T-PLUS* 42 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Region and/or Defense Tier.
    T-PLUS* 42 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global Invasion Events.
    T-PLUS* 42 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global or VIP Events.

    FOR POSTERITY:
    Today we have a complete line of ASSAULT WEAPONS for you to compete for. :cool:

    The Assault Weapon Du Jour is the LINDEN MKII ...

    RANK #01: 40.5 ... 93.46T-137.44T - 216 NANOS - Greatest
    RANK #02: 39.5 ... 43.73T-68.72T - 162 NANOS - Greater
    RANK #03: 38.5 ... 23.36T-34.36T - 126 NANOS - Great

    RANK #04-#10: 25 Weapon Parts (38.5) - 108 NANOS
    RANK #11-#25: 20 Weapon Parts (38.5) - 90 NANOS
    RANK #26-#50: 15 Weapon Parts (38.5) - 72 NANOS
    (First offered as a prize here: http://ggnbb.glu.com/showthread.php?239033-02-09-ASSAULT-GLOBAL-INVASION-EVENT-(How-Are-We-Doing-)&p=543273&viewfull=1#post543273)

    As usual, the VIP Event Lineup is yet another rerun of numerous past events:

    @7,000 GOLD: 40.5 TOMB MKII TESLA - 123.7T-189.67T.
    @5,750 GOLD: 40.0 BEAR MKII ASSAULT - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 SR Standard Bearer".
    @3,500 GOLD: 39.5 BELLOWS MKII TESLA - 70.09T-103.08T.

    @PARTS: 40.0 DEER MKII SNIPER - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 LR Standard Bearer".

    The "magic number" for this Battle Cycle (should be) ... 98,959.36B (99T) ...
    ... then again, the "magic number" for the Battle Cycle (could be as high as) ... 197,918.72B (198T) ...
    ... then again it could be (remains at) ... 49,479.68 (49T) Sort of depends on your POV.

    The very first time the LINDEN was offered as a prize was on 02/09/2017.

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • amsoft2000amsoft2000 Expert Member Registered Users 5,782 Posts
    T-PLUS* 49 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Region and/or Defense Tier.
    T-PLUS* 49 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global Invasion Events.
    T-PLUS* 49 DAYS and COUNTING NO New Weapons via Global or VIP Events.

    FOR POSTERITY:
    RANK #01-#10: 40.5 MAUSOLEUM MKII TESLA ... 103.08T-169.05T - (Weapon)
    RANK #11-#30: 40.5 MAUSOLEUM MKII TESLA ... 103.08T-169.05T - (Parts)

    Today marks the start of what should have been the "lameduck" event cycle of the TIER 40/41 Battle Cycle ..... as is typical and ALWAYS my advice, delay investing any sizeable amounts until 1-week from today on 05/18/2017 (that is, if you feel the compulsion to part with your money). :cool:

    As usual, the VIP Event Lineup is yet another rerun of numerous past events:

    @7,000 GOLD: 40.5 MOOSE MKII SNIPER - 68.72T-112.7T.
    @5,750 GOLD: 40.0 ZIGGURAT ELITE MKII TESLA - 82.46T-148.43T.
    @3,500 GOLD: 39.5 PONY MKII SNIPER - 46.73T-68.72T.

    @PARTS: 40.0 DEER MKII SNIPER - 54.98T-98.96T - "TIER 40 LR Standard Bearer".

    The "magic number" for this Battle Cycle (should be) ... 98,959.36B (99T) ...
    ... then again, the "magic number" for the Battle Cycle (could be as high as) ... 197,918.72B (198T) ...
    ... then again it could be (remains at) ... 49,479.68 (49T) Sort of depends on your POV.

    Good Luck and Good Hunting !!!
    Complex Minds Require Challenging Games ... SCORPION
  • try_againtry_again Senior Member Registered Users 1,302 Posts
    Everything was going smoothly for maximum payouts until Economy Upgrade 3.
    These are the calculated Payouts;

    Tier 39
    Economy Max Payout
    _Entry 0 1.71B
    _Level 1 1.92B
    _Level 2 2.13B
    _Level 3 2.35B
    _Level 4 2.56B

    So, where I should now get 2.35B for Level 3, and 2.56 for Level 4, GLU threw us new code to put in a "soft" cap of 2.15B per payout. The reason I say soft, is now and then, GLU lets up to maximum payout, usually with tougher shield power slip through. This continues to the latest Tier 40 payouts as well. Will it go even farther to slow our base update? Could be intentional since it seems we have gone from a 3 week Tier release, to roughly 2 month release.

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