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Golem vs Resolve (warning: tons of math)
DrunkLightning
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It seems the general consensus that Resolve is the best suffix, because it gives you health defense and armor.
HOWEVER, the issue stands at how defense is calculated. From my guestimated experience resolve has about 60% of the defense that Golem offers. It also gives about ~10x the HP conferred from the defense. Let's say theoretically you have 5 pieces of Resolve that give you a total of 300 defense and 3000 more HP. Assume that we have 5000 base HP as well. 5 pieces of Golem would then give about 500 defense but no HP.
Now comes the question of whether defense is linearly scaled (Damage - Defense = damage dealt) or percentage scaled (damage * (some variable based off defense stat) = damage dealt) From my experience so far, it APPEARS to be linearly scaled. Therefore, calculating EFFECTIVE health becomes difficult, as how much damage your enemies do to you will influence this.
For example, if a boss hits you for 600 true damage, then with resolve you will take 300 damage. At 8000 total health, you could take about 26 hits.
However, with Golem you would take 100 per hit, but only have 5000 health. This means that you will be killed at 50 blows exactly.
However, as the numbers start to go up, weird things happen. Let's say a boss hits you for 1000 true damage now.
For Resolve, this would mean that you would take 700 damage, with 8000 health. This would mean you could survive about 11 hits.
With Golem, this is 500 damage with 5000 HP. This means you are killed at 10 exactly.
What does this mean exactly? This is all about how much damage the enemy can do, and how much DEFENSE you can get from your stats. (Also a lot of this math is done without knowing official stats, so pros with tons of experience and items, do help me out here.) In general, the less damage enemies do to you, the more effective Golem is.
So far in the game I have invested in Golem items rather than Resolve like everyone says. Based off what I have just (Very sleepily) calculated, do people think it's a good idea?
HOWEVER, the issue stands at how defense is calculated. From my guestimated experience resolve has about 60% of the defense that Golem offers. It also gives about ~10x the HP conferred from the defense. Let's say theoretically you have 5 pieces of Resolve that give you a total of 300 defense and 3000 more HP. Assume that we have 5000 base HP as well. 5 pieces of Golem would then give about 500 defense but no HP.
Now comes the question of whether defense is linearly scaled (Damage - Defense = damage dealt) or percentage scaled (damage * (some variable based off defense stat) = damage dealt) From my experience so far, it APPEARS to be linearly scaled. Therefore, calculating EFFECTIVE health becomes difficult, as how much damage your enemies do to you will influence this.
For example, if a boss hits you for 600 true damage, then with resolve you will take 300 damage. At 8000 total health, you could take about 26 hits.
However, with Golem you would take 100 per hit, but only have 5000 health. This means that you will be killed at 50 blows exactly.
However, as the numbers start to go up, weird things happen. Let's say a boss hits you for 1000 true damage now.
For Resolve, this would mean that you would take 700 damage, with 8000 health. This would mean you could survive about 11 hits.
With Golem, this is 500 damage with 5000 HP. This means you are killed at 10 exactly.
What does this mean exactly? This is all about how much damage the enemy can do, and how much DEFENSE you can get from your stats. (Also a lot of this math is done without knowing official stats, so pros with tons of experience and items, do help me out here.) In general, the less damage enemies do to you, the more effective Golem is.
So far in the game I have invested in Golem items rather than Resolve like everyone says. Based off what I have just (Very sleepily) calculated, do people think it's a good idea?
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I know I couldn't. I'm only at 1600 GS
1. Gold gears only be resovle or fortitude type, that still Hp+Def type. So it dont matter to think what is better, when you look at the best, it the only type you can have.
2. This game has minimum damage. When you def is excess enemy atk, all the damage you take will stay the same, so it pointless to have more def. And when you take heavy damage, you gonna need hp more than def too.
Gold gear is hard to come by. I mean when you're in the middle range of using blues/purples, it could theoretically be possible for Golem to outclass Resolve. It just comes down to the math of how much defense you can get and how much damage is inflicted to you
Minimum damage arguement is void. The damage being dealt to you is so little it doesn't matter at all.
Ah, but this is where you are wrong. Golem gives the same about of IIF as well.
1. May be my IIF is so high so I never see one, but purple gear has Golem type, really?
2. Well, wait till you see 146+ dmg as minimum, and you would cry for those extra HP.
3. What the point to consider this again? I mean the real issue people have is the boss, not the mob. And We would only farm endlessly with the boss, or the mob in endless that deal almost the same damage as the boss. And you said it yourself, def is not as useful as HP when facing heavy damage. Why go for something that never in need?
I am not so much advocating Golem rather just bringing up a curious point. I've shown with math that there is a "break point" where Golem will offer you better survivability when facing CERTAIN amounts of damage. I do not actually know how much damage bosses do higher up, or much defense one can actually get out of Golem.
Though now I wish they'd kept a higher level version of Golem for purples and golds though
In my case. I also can't get legendary equip which i need. I farm legendary Hellboy sometimes, but its boring to do this so i will stick with purple and blue gear forever. I'll never get unbreakable.
legendary/epic doesnt have golem.
Resolves legendary/epic only.
Fail lol.
That took no maths lol.
Exactly