I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
@uglyjackie ok so I am going to enlighten you about the past tea: I was a covet player before kkh and after drooping covet, corona happened and I started playing kkh. In covet, you are encouraged to change your doll's skin tone and ethnicity according to challenge. There have been so much drama in the past because of players in classic mode submitting white dolls during black themes like aretha Franklin impersonation etc. In classic mode you can change your skin all you want but covet's modern mode doesn't let you change your doll's ethnicity or body shape, you are assigned a specific doll out of god knows how much dolls and you have to work with it. I played covet in modern mode because I liked the diversity, same appearance all the time bores me but even if I played in classic mode, we would change skin tones and hair colors often. When I started kkh my years of playing covet habits kicked in and I never tried to limit my doll with one single ethnicity. She was white, sometimes asian, sometimes black. Char is trying to joke about that I guess but honestly, I don't have to justify my playing habits to a stranger online. I will continue to do what I always do. If you check the other thread, I explained this to booski before because she sounded geniunely curious.
Edited because it came off too agressive which is not my thing š
Iām a covet player, and youāre encouraged to change the dolls ethnicity to match the challenge and picture because some challenges are about specific races and ethnicities (for example itāll say āStyle a look for an African Warrior.ā So of course youād use a black doll) But itās completely different here because usually your doll is based on YOU, on Covet the doll is based on the challenge. We havenāt had any SYS based on ethnicities or races so it doesnāt make sense why you would make your doll black. And I know ppl are gonna say āits just a game,ā but please understand that if given the chance irl you would absolutely never choose to be black.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Generally if you're worried that something you're interested in doing could be perceived as racist, thats a sign that it's probably a bit racist and it'd be a good idea to avoid it. This sounds like I'm trying to be a dick lol but I'm just saying your instincts are probably pretty good and if there's something you're having second thoughts about there's probably a reason for that
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
donāt be shy fix youāre wording. you donāt āhaveā to do anything. if youāre not understanding jus say that luv. and for most even if it is in a game we are experiencing the same thing in our daily lives. you may not be able to take that in consideration cause after all youāre not one of us. no disrespect but all disrespect. x
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
I think this questions are important so we can learn about things we dont know and not make mistakes like this. I completly agree with everything you said that you finally have your representations and that its yours. I'm not black but I'm defnetly not white to, but even so, its not my place of speech. I know that it must be terrible to keep saying over and over again theĀ same stuffĀ so thank you for explain to us.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
You are so shady and Iām tired of it. Stop playing the āoh no i didnāt mean it like that teehee it was a genuine question š„°ā card. āEven tho its in a gameā. Can you not? Thatās so shady and youāre slick or sly. Itās not giving what you think i itās giving.Ā
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
I think this questions are important so we can learn about things we dont know and not make mistakes like this. I completly agree with everything you said that you finally have your representations and that its yours. I'm not black but I'm defnetly not white to, but even so, its not my place of speech. I know that it must be terrible to keep saying over and over again theĀ same stuffĀ so thank you for explain to us.
if yu donāt understand what weāre trying to get through to yu and a bunch of other dolls jus say that šš½āāļø we wonāt judge.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
You are so shady and Iām tired of it. Stop playing the āoh no i didnāt mean it like that teehee it was a genuine question š„°ā card. āEven tho its in a gameā. Can you not? Thatās so shady and youāre slick or sly. Itās not giving what you think i itās giving.Ā
Honestly,Ā @naeusts andĀ @munimuni , are trying to be respectful and asking genuine questions on why this is not okay to the POC community. It can't be assumed that everyone has seen all the discussion about this subject throughout the forum. I feel like this is suppose to be a safe space to ask these questions and @naeusts is trying to learn and apologize and agree with all of you. I'm not sure that you invalidating her appreciation for the education is very nice.Ā
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
You are so shady and Iām tired of it. Stop playing the āoh no i didnāt mean it like that teehee it was a genuine question š„°ā card. āEven tho its in a gameā. Can you not? Thatās so shady and youāre slick or sly. Itās not giving what you think i itās giving.Ā
Honestly,Ā @naeusts andĀ @munimuni , are trying to be respectful and asking genuine questions on why this is not okay to the POC community. It can't be assumed that everyone has seen all the discussion about this subject throughout the forum. I feel like this is suppose to be a safe space to ask these questions and @naeusts is trying to learn and apologize and agree with all of you. I'm not sure that you invalidating her appreciation for the education is very nice.Ā
Like I said previously, it was shady. It was perfectly fine until the last line. Weāve explained multiple times why itās offensive but the same questions keep getting asked and at this point, like I said, itās tiring.Ā
(Putting it back up because it needed āapprovalā after I tried to edit and I know it wonāt be approved.)Ā
We have this same conversation every week, itās like speaking to a wall & being a broken record. Itās tiring for black people to constantly have to educate people especially when itās on the same topic all the time. Google is free. Some people come to this game to escape things they experience irl such as discrimination, being shamed for doing something as a black person but a white person getting praised for it, etc. Then having to experience it in game/on the forum is tiring. Yall advocate for more black hairstyles for black dolls just to change your dolls skin tone or wear the hair. We finally got a free hairstyle thatās high quality after the fights on the forum and ofc yall wanna jump on the bandwagon and wear it. Iām honestly confused, are the 5 ariana grande ponytails not enough for you?? You want to be black on a mobile game where you donāt have to experience discrimination or racism but if a cop pulled you over youāre back to being white. You want the style but not the struggles. Just hang it up. Itās tiring and weird.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
Throughout my adolescent-adult life I have always tried to learn more and clear my doubts about the subject and I like to hear people talk because it is something that I will never feel myself. So when they say it's something, we have to believe and respect it, even tho its in a game.
You are so shady and Iām tired of it. Stop playing the āoh no i didnāt mean it like that teehee it was a genuine question š„°ā card. āEven tho its in a gameā. Can you not? Thatās so shady and youāre slick or sly. Itās not giving what you think i itās giving.Ā
Its really difficult talk in the internet in another lenguage and try to ask questions about things with people that I dont know. If there is one thing I'm not is shady. I think we have to stop attacking each other all the time in here, its such a good place to escape from all the bad things that is happening in the world and try to make good connections.
Our artists are designing more items than ever before! We'll continue offering the same number of event prizes and free gifts. The diamond items are available in addition to all the other items in the game and it's totally optional to buy items that cost diamonds. If you just want to play for the event earnables, that's cool! As soon as there's a new way to earn more diamonds in the game, I'll let you know! Regarding Show Your Style, it's possible to run the events all the time now, including the week of new update releases.
So there is a possibility that we could get a new way to earn Diamonds?! š I can't wait to see this play outĀ
I found it ridiculous not to vote for someone that is wearing a diamond item from shop or from the diamond kollections. Like wtf, thatās literally selfish... yāall acting like someone putting a gun to your head telling you to buy diamond items.. itās your choice whether or not you want to purchase DIAMONDS items. Itās very unfair to OTHERS to give them low votes because theyāre wearing diamond items, please GROW UPĀ and stop being CHILDISH...
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her?
yu had the right idea babes āš¾ jus because yu think that if yu make your doll black itās finally ok to us the hairstyles itās not š it is offensive. POC finally have representation in the game and now all the white dolls want to change their dolls to black. all due respect itās not for you and never will be for you.Ā
Like I said, it was a real question and I really want to learn more about this. I myself never did it out of respect, in the game or real life even tho I love it, but never heard for someone what they really felt about it
I think @mschocalatedrop nailed it and I am white so likely canāt contribute anything to the discussion. But the way I see it is skin color is not a choice and you changing your doll to dark skinned to wear other outfits is really tone deaf and looks like youāre assuming dark skin for the convenience of being able to wear other things which isnāt okay.Ā
Our artists are designing more items than ever before! We'll continue offering the same number of event prizes and free gifts. The diamond items are available in addition to all the other items in the game and it's totally optional to buy items that cost diamonds. If you just want to play for the event earnables, that's cool! As soon as there's a new way to earn more diamonds in the game, I'll let you know! Regarding Show Your Style, it's possible to run the events all the time now, including the week of new update releases.
So there is a possibility that we could get a new way to earn Diamonds?! š I can't wait to see this play outĀ
No lmao thatās just what Kalinda says. She also has said āIāll let you know when things change about SYS!!ā Itās total lipservice.Ā
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
Iām sorry if my comment came off that way and I can see why it was taken that way. I didnāt mean it. I just wanted to ask, because I was genuinely curious.
To clarify, I donāt have or use POC hairstyles on my game, and I donāt chase them either if they were earnables or prizes. I havenāt changed my dolls skin tone nor have I submitted a doll who was black.Ā
I was just asking about styling a black doll to take a picture of the style but not deliberately choosing a black doll just to put on a POC hairstyle on her or to submit her in certain themes. Just to style her clothing wise and makeup wise (ei. Lolita fashion, punk, gothic, and other styles)
Again, Iām sorry if my question came of that way and wasnāt my intention at all.Ā
And Iād just want to respectfully disagree about asking questions abt these types of hard topics because this is how people learn in my opinion. Mostly from other people who are directly affected by an issue (and since my research about the topic about having a POC doll is limited and mentions the encouragement of having diversity in dolls) but again other people affected think otherwise (and i agree that we shouldnāt pick a POC doll just to put on an hairstyle but I just wanted to hear your side about the topic to give me more perspective about styling (clothing and makeup on a black doll)) Again Iām sorry and I should have been more mindful about my question.Ā
Iām also happy for POC dolls getting the representation theyāve been asking for for years.Ā
Edit: also my original comment about hair wasnāt directly about POC hair but all the hairs I have now (short hair, the ponytail with weird bangs, and the like cause they may look diff with diff features )again sorry it came off that way I should have been more mindful and understand why my comment could have been taken that way. Itās hard to have a proper convo over text and the intent could also be taken wrong.
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
Iām sorry if my comment came off that way and I can see why it was taken that way. I didnāt mean it. I just wanted to ask, because I was genuinely curious.
To clarify, I donāt have or use POC hairstyles on my game, and I donāt chase them either if they were earnables or prizes. I havenāt changed my dolls skin tone nor have I submitted a doll who was black.Ā
I was just asking about styling a black doll to take a picture of the style but not deliberately choosing a black doll just to put on a POC hairstyle on her or to submit her in certain themes. Just to style her clothing wise and makeup wise (ei. Lolita fashion, punk, gothic, and other styles)
Again, Iām sorry if my question came of that way and wasnāt my intention at all.Ā
And Iād just want to respectfully disagree about asking questions abt these types of hard topics because this is how people learn in my opinion. Mostly from other people who are directly affected by an issue (and since my research about the topic about having a POC doll is limited and mentions the encouragement of having diversity in dolls) but again other people affected think otherwise (and i agree that we shouldnāt pick a POC doll just to put on an hairstyle but I just wanted to hear your side about the topic to give me more perspective about styling (clothing and makeup on a black doll)) Again Iām sorry and I should have been more mindful about my question.Ā
Iām also happy for POC dolls getting the representation theyāve been asking for for years.Ā
That's what I'm talking about. And sorry for my communications skills, for me its really hard to type in english what I want to say, and I trully respect everyone in here.
As a BIPOC ally, I realized last year that I could always do more to educate myself on racism and the battle BIPOC fight everyday on inequality. Itās not the responsibility of a fellow BIPOC doll to educate you on cultural appropriation and why they feel so hurt when you are using their hairstyles and skin tones on your doll.Ā
Here are some books and Instagram accounts that I found helpful, I encourage everyone to look into them:
Books Iām Still Here by Austin Channing Brown Queenie by Candice Carty-Williams Why Iām No Longer Talking To White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge
As a BIPOC ally, I realized last year that I could always do more to educate myself on racism and the battle BIPOC fight everyday on inequality. Itās not the responsibility of a fellow BIPOC doll to educate you on cultural appropriation and why they feel so hurt when you are using their hairstyles and skin tones on your doll.Ā
Here are some books and Instagram accounts that I found helpful, I encourage everyone to look into them:
Books Iām Still Here by Austin Channing Brown Queenie by Candice Carty-Williams Why Iām No Longer Talking To White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge
I'm just gonna say that this is a genuine question and not a shade or something like this: we know and talked about it the other day, that certain types of hairstyles, used on white people, are cultural appropriation and I support that. In this case, if I find it very beautiful and I want to use it, is it wrong for me to change my doll's skin tone to black and finally be able to use it on her? Because I think this is kinda the point for some people to want to change their dolls and be able to style them in a way that they think is most pretty.
Iām curious too! I grew up playing with barbies and bratz of different races, and I see my doll as something similar to a Barbie and/or Bratz. My doll doesnāt even have a proper name nor does she look like me (currently using blonde hair and blue eyes) Iām pale asf in real life and mestiza (Filipino & Spanish). I havenāt really change her skin tone much (aside from being the pales tan in tropical themes) since Idk if itāll be okay since other dolls voiced that itās not okay. I honestly play this game for styling, since I like giving friends makeovers and stuff. I also really want to branch out to trying out styling different races (not to fit a certain theme) but to play around with features and hair for diversity. Ā
I genuinely do not understand why you white dolls feel the need to change your dolls skin tone to use the black hairstyles. It took YEARS for black dolls to get their skin tone with this update. Its EXTREMELY difficult to obtain POC hairstyles. You guys have so much representation in this game its disgusting that you feel the need and want to change your skin tone. Its a disgrace. Some dolls, including me, still donāt have that representation like that. Its disgusting and these questions should no longer be asked.
Iām sorry if my comment came off that way and I can see why it was taken that way. I didnāt mean it. I just wanted to ask, because I was genuinely curious.
To clarify, I donāt have or use POC hairstyles on my game, and I donāt chase them either if they were earnables or prizes. I havenāt changed my dolls skin tone nor have I submitted a doll who was black.Ā
I was just asking about styling a black doll to take a picture of the style but not deliberately choosing a black doll just to put on a POC hairstyle on her or to submit her in certain themes. Just to style her clothing wise and makeup wise (ei. Lolita fashion, punk, gothic, and other styles)
Again, Iām sorry if my question came of that way and wasnāt my intention at all.Ā
And Iād just want to respectfully disagree about asking questions abt these types of hard topics because this is how people learn in my opinion. Mostly from other people who are directly affected by an issue (and since my research about the topic about having a POC doll is limited and mentions the encouragement of having diversity in dolls) but again other people affected think otherwise (and i agree that we shouldnāt pick a POC doll just to put on an hairstyle but I just wanted to hear your side about the topic to give me more perspective about styling (clothing and makeup on a black doll)) Again Iām sorry and I should have been more mindful about my question.Ā
Iām also happy for POC dolls getting the representation theyāve been asking for for years.Ā
Edit: also my original comment about hair wasnāt directly about POC hair but all the hairs I have now (short hair, the ponytail with weird bangs, and the like cause they may look diff with diff features )again sorry it came off that way I should have been more mindful and understand why my comment could have been taken that way. Itās hard to have a proper convo over text and the intent could also be taken wrong.
I just wanted to speak to your point about these kind of discussions being a learning experience for people on the forum - while this may benefit white people it does also place a huge burden on people of colour (mostly black) who have to keep explaining this. This isn't really a 'no dumb questions' type of place to find out more about race issues so I think its probably better to try to find out more about this topic somewhere else rather than here.
I loved some of the new diamond kloset items when they first came out yesterday, but after having another look at them and seeing how theyāve been released basically specifically for the sys they seem really gimicky š„“ i guess thatās the point but atleast itāll save me a few diamonds š
@Lisylis I understand that after taking a step back and rereading my comment. Sometimes I want to hit myself with my curiosity and not thinking before posting. I just wanted to ask at that time because the research I made about it and the my POC friends told me it was okay (refer to my clarification about my question) and only realized after I posted it that it may affect POC dolls badly (sorry Iām kinda out of it from the meds I took and took the convo as my friends and I talking) Again, Iād like to sincerely apologize to the POC dolls that were hurt about our comments/questions.
I just find it ridiculous that every week people ask the same question about POC. It is already hard to get POC items as it is.We are trying to educate people about it and yet, it is the same question every week. It is honestly tiring and it feels like we are talking to a brick wall.š„“
@Lisylis I understand that after taking a step back and rereading my comment. Sometimes I want to hit myself with my curiosity and not thinking before posting. I just wanted to ask at that time because the research I made about it and the my POC friends told me it was okay (refer to my clarification about my question) and only realized after I posted it that it may affect POC dolls badly (sorry Iām kinda out of it from the meds I took and took the convo as my friends and I talking) Again, Iād like to sincerely apologize to the POC dolls that were hurt about our comments/questions.
Me too. It wasn't even me who was changing the skin color and I shouldn't have been in a conversation that I wasn't even in it the first place. Its beem a while that I've been misunderstood in here and I'm really sad about that. I'm not a shady person or rude, and I'll do better with my englishĀ communication next time.
About punishing dolls with diamond items... Iāve saved up diamonds in order to buy items.Ā You donāt know whoās literally saved them up or bought the pack (which I did a while ago, and I refuse to now). Just because I want a throwback item (like the lips that recently went on for diamonds) I donāt think should mean I get punished for it..! Even dolls with past items, you donāt know if they got the item with kstars or diamonds. To me it doesnāt make sense, it will not change Glu, but do what you want because thatās your choice! I just donāt think itās going to help by punishing other players (my opinion and choice, not anyone elseās). And I will choose to vote for on theme looks with or without diamond items.
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Generally if you're worried that something you're interested in doing could be perceived as racist, thats a sign that it's probably a bit racist and it'd be a good idea to avoid it. This sounds like I'm trying to be a dick lol but I'm just saying your instincts are probably pretty good and if there's something you're having second thoughts about there's probably a reason for that
We have this same conversation every week, itās like speaking to a wall & being a broken record. Itās tiring for black people to constantly have to educate people especially when itās on the same topic all the time. Google is free. Some people come to this game to escape things they experience irl such as discrimination, being shamed for doing something as a black person but a white person getting praised for it, etc. Then having to experience it in game/on the forum is tiring. Yall advocate for more black hairstyles for black dolls just to change your dolls skin tone or wear the hair. We finally got a free hairstyle thatās high quality after the fights on the forum and ofc yall wanna jump on the bandwagon and wear it. Iām honestly confused, are the 5 ariana grande ponytails not enough for you?? You want to be black on a mobile game where you donāt have to experience discrimination or racism but if a cop pulled you over youāre back to being white. You want the style but not the struggles. Just hang it up. Itās tiring and weird.
To clarify, I donāt have or use POC hairstyles on my game, and I donāt chase them either if they were earnables or prizes. I havenāt changed my dolls skin tone nor have I submitted a doll who was black.Ā
In other news I had exactly 60 k-stars, Iām obsessed with this dress š
Books
Iām Still Here by Austin Channing Brown
Queenie by Candice Carty-Williams
Why Iām No Longer Talking To White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge
IG Accounts
munroebergdorf
courtneyahndesign
yourrightscamp
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I just find it ridiculous that every week people ask the same question about POC. It is already hard to get POC items as it is.We are trying to educate people about it and yet, it is the same question every week. It is honestly tiring and it feels like we are talking to a brick wall.š„“