@KkhElena you’ve done nothing but insult and complain, i’m genuinely trying to understand why you seem to think fantasy world = reality. i’m trying to have a conversation and yes i’m frustrated so i’ve been slightly rude, but you’re equally adding fuel to the fire, i’m not trying to be microaggressive i’m not trying to disregard peoples opinions i just don’t understand anything you’re saying, yes the stuff you’ve mentioned have flown over my head because it’s all insults, i can’t have a conversation with you and the others that are joining in if all you’re going to do is insult me. lmao/lol/dude/lmfao are just things that i use in the way i type nothing is funny in this situation, i apologise and i’ll try not to use them
You really don't have to try to be racist to be racist. You choosing to ignore what people are calling you out for is the problem. You acting like a victim is another.
Do either of you plan to respond here and actually moderate this forum and thread and take action on actually disruptive members of the forum rather than those who are calling out problematic behaviour?
Do either of you plan to respond here and actually moderate this forum and thread and take action on actually disruptive members of the forum rather than those who are calling out problematic behaviour?
These discussions and arguments over digital blackface wouldn’t keep happening in SYS threads if it wasn’t a real issue. The only way this is going to stop is moderating racist members on this forum. This announcement is tone-deaf and dismissive. People wouldn’t be getting heated if there wasn’t anything to get heated about
Exactly. It’s like these people think we actually wake up and decide what to randomly be offended by today. If this wasn't a real and serious issue why would we be talking about it every other day, despite the exhaustion and stress it puts on us? People love to pull the “its a game” “its online” but this is just as real as real life. If you do this on a game, I cant imagine what you do irl. It’s upsetting a lot of us play these types of games as an escape yet we come on here to play a game just to be met with the same racism and antiblackness we experience offline.
“If you are not happy with moderation, you still need to follow the forum rules and respect each other. ”
So essentially we have to suck it up and deal with insufficient moderation even when we voice our concerns and provide clear instructions on what would be more appropriate and appreciated in the forum?
okay then leave, no one is forcing you to stay lmfao
@reema don’t pretend like you came in here politely to discuss this.
it was a solution. don’t like the mods, then leave, i don’t understand why it had to be blown out of proportion
How is this a solution? Thats like telling ppl to leave their country if they don't like the way the government treats them. Or like telling someone to quit their job if they’re experiencing discrimination. Some of us actually like this forum when it isn't overrun by ignorant ppl and racists. It’s where we get spoilers, info, help with quests, make friends, discuss things about the game, actually communicate with the team (occasionally🤔) It’s 2021 and we’re still being told if we dont like racism, leave.
These types of threads made by ineffective moderators make me wonder if they are just trying to get all the "disrespectful people" in one place to track and ban them. The statement by Kalinda very clearly says don't make the racists uncomfortable if you don't want to be banned. She had to know people would respond and now she knows who to watch for specifically. Being a moderator on a community forum is a service job. As a member of the community we have every right to complain if moderation isn't being conducted in a fair and unbiased manner. I make it a habit to make racists uncomfortable in any space I occupy be that irl or just a game.
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It is now the next day. I just opened the forum thinking maybe y'all would have said SOMETHING by now, yet all I see is racism continuing to fly and POC dolls being ignored. What was the point of this thread? It seems like you are trying to rile people up at this point. It's weird, it's disturbing, and I cannot believe the amount of stuff I have seen being allowed to fly.
Again, tagging you both to ask if you will actually be moderating the forum? Or was the opening of this thread a very feeble attempt to appease those of us who are against discrimination, despite us all knowing you have failed to ban racists as well as hackers while jumping at the opportunity to ban Black and other POC players who speak up about being attacked and targeted? The lack of response and clear indication that you don’t care, is really tiring.
We need more mods here because clearly what we’re seeing here is insufficient and ignorant.
Ngl, it’s so sad seeing threads like this because you just KNOW the purpose is not for the mods to try and understand their members and fix what they’re doing wrong, but to shove all discussions of racism or anything else that makes them feel uncomfortable into another thread they can ignore.
The first one clearly didn’t work, since people still called them out elsewhere, so they just made another one, to nicely group up all ‘uncomfortable’ discussions in one place and happily turn a blind eye to.
There is no way the moderators even check these threads honestly. If they did they would have said something by now.
While we're talking about diversity, can we also get some representation for other religions? This game is so centered around christianity and it wouldn't be that hard to add a few items for other religions as well. As someone who is half jewish I would love to get a menorah, dreidel, chocolate coins, or other cute items representing Hanukkah when we get the December update. There are so many jewish holidays that involve items that would make for very cute in-game gifts (apples and honey for Rosh Hashanah, matzah or a seder plate for Passover are some examples). The amount of effort it would take to include these little things a few times a year would be so small, but would go a long way in making players from other religions feel more appreciated. I won't speak for other religions because as a non-member I don't feel comfortable speaking on that, but I expect there are nice items or outfits people would love to see representing their religious identity as well.
Firstly, hi everyone. I've been lurking the forums for a while now (I started playing a month or so ago), but I really wanted to make a comment here.
KKH Hollywood is an app/game, yes. However, this forum is not a game. This is where real people are educating (even though they shouldn't have to) and sharing their frustrations. Treating these discussions as though they are part of a game is ignorant. Nobody is roleplaying a character here. They are talking as themselves, to other people. Not dolls talking to dolls. And yes, what's being discussed is a game, but that does not mean that what people are doing in the game isn't harmful or affecting real people. How many times have I seen POC saying that certain hairstyles should not be worn on white dolls? Many while lurking. The fact that it keeps coming up is ridiculous, you should know better by now! Listen to what people are saying: they are not for you/your doll to wear!! If someone is speaking about cultural appropriation, switching skin tones, racism etc. listen to them. I'm not here to speak over POC so if I've overstepped any boundaries I apologize, and if I have said anything wrong please correct me. I also hope this isn't taken as provoking an argument, because that is not my intent.
Have some respect and listen to what is being said by POC, allow yourself to be educated (and thank people for their time if you're so unwilling to use Google), and make appropriate and productive changes to your mindset and behaviour. It's not hard.
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it’s all so vague, what do you define as bullying? who is “you” ? what are you really trying to say bc it looks more like you’re trying to shelter the actual people causing problem and punish the people who call them out for causing said problems. i don’t think it’s fair to put out a vague semi-related statement that basically says “bullying bad” whilst not actually confronting what people have been saying, especially after so many people have pointed out how unfair and inconsistent the moderation is. ( sorry if this doesn’t make complete sense i’m very tired atm )
i’m sorry but you mean to tell me that after reading this ENTIRE thread of people talking about literal racism and how people who call out said racism are banned and threatened with bans, you decided that they were the problem? not the people DELIBERATELY saying ignorant things to start arguments ( like in the previous sys threads ) and refusing to educate themselves or resolve the situation. but you’d rather people be silent and uncomfortable in the forum then rock the boat? ok.
If it wasn't addressed already, popping in to say that Glu really needs to change the ways that representation is done within the game play. Why primarily put ethnic and cultural items in Collections and Boxes where there's "chances" to get them or where you have to fight in SYS for Trendsetters. When releasing items that are cultural or ethnic they should be easily accessible as Earnables or just simply added to the closet for updates. It's not fair to POC dolls for it to not be achievable to get the items that represent us. It is also not fair to non POC dolls for them to spin a box and get a hairstyle or item that wouldn't be appropriate for them to wear. Nor should they have the opportunity to ticket buy the items away from POC dolls. This could alleviate the issues that we're seeing here.
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The statement by Kalinda very clearly says don't make the racists uncomfortable if you don't want to be banned. She had to know people would respond and now she knows who to watch for specifically.
Being a moderator on a community forum is a service job. As a member of the community we have every right to complain if moderation isn't being conducted in a fair and unbiased manner.
I make it a habit to make racists uncomfortable in any space I occupy be that irl or just a game.
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We need more mods here because clearly what we’re seeing here is insufficient and ignorant.
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KKH Hollywood is an app/game, yes. However, this forum is not a game. This is where real people are educating (even though they shouldn't have to) and sharing their frustrations. Treating these discussions as though they are part of a game is ignorant. Nobody is roleplaying a character here. They are talking as themselves, to other people. Not dolls talking to dolls. And yes, what's being discussed is a game, but that does not mean that what people are doing in the game isn't harmful or affecting real people. How many times have I seen POC saying that certain hairstyles should not be worn on white dolls? Many while lurking. The fact that it keeps coming up is ridiculous, you should know better by now! Listen to what people are saying: they are not for you/your doll to wear!! If someone is speaking about cultural appropriation, switching skin tones, racism etc. listen to them. I'm not here to speak over POC so if I've overstepped any boundaries I apologize, and if I have said anything wrong please correct me. I also hope this isn't taken as provoking an argument, because that is not my intent.
Have some respect and listen to what is being said by POC, allow yourself to be educated (and thank people for their time if you're so unwilling to use Google), and make appropriate and productive changes to your mindset and behaviour. It's not hard.
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what are you really trying to say bc it looks more like you’re trying to shelter the actual people causing problem and punish the people who call them out for causing said problems. i don’t think it’s fair to put out a vague semi-related statement that basically says “bullying bad” whilst not actually confronting what people have been saying, especially after so many people have pointed out how unfair and inconsistent the moderation is. ( sorry if this doesn’t make complete sense i’m very tired atm )