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Upgrading Players
SymbolicJester
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Please read, And please discus, i'm not hear to start an argument or fight, this is just my idea, and i'm sure someone will disagree with it, actually i'm sure of it, please respond respectfully
Upgrading Players.........
I spent approx 300/400 to get up to where i am, which i was comfortable with, i had the extra money, so threw some on the game, not at all once. But i was happy with what i got for it. BUT it stopped when i noticed that in order to upgrade a Diamond 1 player to Diamond 2 took 75,000 cash (fine), 25,000 XP (ok) and 500 gold (HELL NO).
This is really pathetic, 500 gold to upgrade one level, are you serious????
I can see costing gold, but 500, come on, that is like $6.25 for one level
Diamond 2 to Diamond 3 is 87,300 cash, 29,100 XP, and again 500 gold
Diamond 3 to Diamond 4 is 101,850 Cash, 33,950 XP and 1,000 gold.???????
this is really way to much, A majority of players don't mind putting money on the game, and most could probably spend $20/30 a month on it, but just ranking one player from Diamond 1 to diamond 4 will take that, so in a years time that will have at max 4 players at Diamond 9, which we all know the higher Diamond level will probably require even more gold.
This is really way to expensive for a vast majority of the players, This is also probably why people leave and stop playing. Also could be way the matching system doesn't work, this causes a gap, people stop playing cause they can not upgrade, and those who can afford it, upgrade the players, so you get teams of 75,000 that stopped playing, while those who can afford it, will grow to beyond that, causing an issue in matching,
Upgrading the Diamond levels need to be lowered Dramatically, i can understand spending gold on upgrading, but not 500+ per level, i would say drop all the gold values for diamond levels by 95%, so to upgrade to Diamond 2 and 3 would need 25 gold each, going to diamond 4 would need 50 gold, this is more reasonable, 10% might even do but that may be a bit much in the higher levels, i do not know the cost of them, and unless i get duplicates of the players i have, i will not be getting to them to find out, cause i will not spend that much on a game just for a slight boost and one level, if i was buy 20 in gold, i should be able to take one player from Diamond 1 to Diamond 9/10 without question.
The Cash and XP are fine, my opinion is they are still too high, but it is widely available to obtain, just takes time, though they should also be decreased as well.
This is just my two-cents, I've been in retail, worked as manager at a produce stand. I set prices to beat everyone around us, Had the store doing 900 in profits a day, owner thought he could do better by raising the prices, fired me, hired someone else, closed the store 3 months later, cause i wouldn't come back.
I've helped other online companies improve the fairness to all members, they succeeded in keeping players interested in their games, cause they opened the game to the base of players. Game Companies needs to realize its better to have 200 players paying 50 a month then it is having 50 players paying 200 a month, and yes i know, its exactly the same, each scenario brings in 10,000 a month. but if 10 players stop playing,
190 paying 50 a month = 9,500
40 paying 200 a month = 8,000
The hit on the bottom line isn't that much, its far better to make the game for a vast majority of players then it is making it for those who can spend more.
Upgrading Players.........
I spent approx 300/400 to get up to where i am, which i was comfortable with, i had the extra money, so threw some on the game, not at all once. But i was happy with what i got for it. BUT it stopped when i noticed that in order to upgrade a Diamond 1 player to Diamond 2 took 75,000 cash (fine), 25,000 XP (ok) and 500 gold (HELL NO).
This is really pathetic, 500 gold to upgrade one level, are you serious????
I can see costing gold, but 500, come on, that is like $6.25 for one level
Diamond 2 to Diamond 3 is 87,300 cash, 29,100 XP, and again 500 gold
Diamond 3 to Diamond 4 is 101,850 Cash, 33,950 XP and 1,000 gold.???????
this is really way to much, A majority of players don't mind putting money on the game, and most could probably spend $20/30 a month on it, but just ranking one player from Diamond 1 to diamond 4 will take that, so in a years time that will have at max 4 players at Diamond 9, which we all know the higher Diamond level will probably require even more gold.
This is really way to expensive for a vast majority of the players, This is also probably why people leave and stop playing. Also could be way the matching system doesn't work, this causes a gap, people stop playing cause they can not upgrade, and those who can afford it, upgrade the players, so you get teams of 75,000 that stopped playing, while those who can afford it, will grow to beyond that, causing an issue in matching,
Upgrading the Diamond levels need to be lowered Dramatically, i can understand spending gold on upgrading, but not 500+ per level, i would say drop all the gold values for diamond levels by 95%, so to upgrade to Diamond 2 and 3 would need 25 gold each, going to diamond 4 would need 50 gold, this is more reasonable, 10% might even do but that may be a bit much in the higher levels, i do not know the cost of them, and unless i get duplicates of the players i have, i will not be getting to them to find out, cause i will not spend that much on a game just for a slight boost and one level, if i was buy 20 in gold, i should be able to take one player from Diamond 1 to Diamond 9/10 without question.
The Cash and XP are fine, my opinion is they are still too high, but it is widely available to obtain, just takes time, though they should also be decreased as well.
This is just my two-cents, I've been in retail, worked as manager at a produce stand. I set prices to beat everyone around us, Had the store doing 900 in profits a day, owner thought he could do better by raising the prices, fired me, hired someone else, closed the store 3 months later, cause i wouldn't come back.
I've helped other online companies improve the fairness to all members, they succeeded in keeping players interested in their games, cause they opened the game to the base of players. Game Companies needs to realize its better to have 200 players paying 50 a month then it is having 50 players paying 200 a month, and yes i know, its exactly the same, each scenario brings in 10,000 a month. but if 10 players stop playing,
190 paying 50 a month = 9,500
40 paying 200 a month = 8,000
The hit on the bottom line isn't that much, its far better to make the game for a vast majority of players then it is making it for those who can spend more.
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Think of it this way, if you had every best player in the game, Diamond 10 rank, and they release a player who has the same stats as one you have, you wouldnt dare spend to get that player, This causes them to induce new players with better stats to make it where everyone will go after that new player. Best thing about it is 17 will continue to run, even when 18 comes out, TSB 15 and 16 is still running and being updated.
One thing i do think they should do is allow the Ballpark to be transferred with each version, as long as we buy that option.
Supporty loyalty to those who plays, right now im getting 90 every day in 17, so once 18 comes out, and i buy the ballpark there, it should automatically be jumped to 90 every day.
Like you said, the prices are too much for the Vast majority, 1600/1800 for a chance to get a good player is way too much, i do like the 500 option that is giving players that fit the bonus point, i think this is fair, dont like the fact that XP is given in it but 500 each is fair. I am a VIP, they want 20,000 gold for a VIP Mystery box, which contains a chance for 42k, 45k, 47k, 49k, 55k, all these are Legend XP and Clayton Kershaw (Living Legend). if im gonna pay $200 for a box, it better be the Clayton Kershaw, this is just way to much for a chance at a legendary player.
For the 200 USD you can get 20,800 Gold. 1700 gold for a XXL Legend XP Box, for that 200USD, you can get 12 of these, even at the lowest amount which is 3500 Legend XP, you would get 42,000 LXP, this is the lowest that the VIP box offers, if i want LXP i would get the XXL box, chances are you would get more LXP then the VIP box.
any company willing to take these steps would own the gaming industry, but none willing to do it..
On a theory note, Glu, how bout this idea, why not add in an option much like the XP for upgrading Players.
This XP will work by means of them actually getting stats and being used, The higher the XP the lower the cost to upgrade.
This will give players the option to upgrade instantly or use that player to get max, for example.........
I have Rhys Hoskins (Diamond 1)
to upgrade him i need to have
75,000 cash
25,000 XP
500 Gold
By using this player in games he gets Playing XP, which can go towards lowering the cost of the upgrade.
I am a fan of playing the game, i would set it up to where only user controlled playing counts but thats my opinion.
Either way, this is a terrific idea, you have the option to get the major spenders to do it instantly, and a way for those who cant to upgrade in time, which helps keep people playing the game...........Just an Idea