This topic is made for [RR] Ryyst
Since it was just announced that RR would be closing on Facebook.
The reason given was it was "TOO EASY" to cheat using a PC and not as easy with a mobile device.
That reason is total crap. Here I will list the current "cheats" and how they work and are used.
Tie Glitch - works on all mobile devices and PC by either closing RR before a race is over or swapping tabs.
Tie Glitch Fix - DQ any user that exits RR before a race is over. That is how it was before being changed and how it is suppose to be.
Racebot - Currently it is only a PC thing that only MAYBE 10-100 people have.
Racebot works by selecting your car from a drop down box, then accepting a race, then adding in the launch key.
Racebot Fix - Since when you accept a race AND THEN have to enter the launch key, that is going to force a DQ if the TIE Glitch is fixed by doing the above suggestion.
Those are the 2 major cheats/glitches that the RR team are currently allowing because of letting people go outside of RR AFTER a race is accepted.
Fix that and that would pretty much kill off any other program too because both mobile and pc has programs like cheat engine that tries to alter what is being used in your devices memory.
IF you wanted to take it one steps further, then FORCE Racing Rivals to close if you go outside of the app. Since you have to load the app and then connect it to the cheating app/program. That would stop it all together since they wouldn't be able to accept a race or nothing and IF they wait until after the race is accepted, just simply make it a AUTO FOUL and let the legit users have a free win.
I know that it was changed since people would cry that their device lost connection, but honestly 75% of those people lied to try and get their car replaced because they lost. Same thing as those people who use the tie glitch now.
Closing a platform that is currently THE BEST option to use is crazy/stupid honestly, and using the excuses not to fix the issues isn't helping the game at all and at the same time losing tons of legit players that also pay a good amount of the income that keeps this game running.
If people want to complain that PC users have an advantage and they don't want to or can't use a pc themselves for what ever reason, then the simple fix to that would be to add a glowing box around the users avatar for what ever device their using. Facebook can have a Blue Glowing box, Android can have a Green Glow, and Apple can either have the default white that is already there or any other color so that people can tell the difference between who their racing and what device their using. That also lets the people that think all PC users are either cheating or have a advantage just avoid racing PC users and I know I would be just fine with racing other PC users if that is all that sent me a race, and I would be fine with it.
Just don't take the only way most of the legit PC users have to play this game when the fixes are sooooo simple.
Everyone is welcome to comment their own opinions on this, but lets try to keep this clean and maybe have the admins input on this too.
I'm also going to add that I am one of the ones that can, but WONT play Racing Rivals on my Android.
My reasons are simple... I'm not going from a perfect racing platform to one that lags my reaction time.
Yes I could go and buy a $1,000 phone/tablet, but I'm not. I will just not use RR at all until FB is brought back.
well I hope it's a joke. RR will regret this later trust me look how many people are going to be quiting hopfully they care about their players and will fix the issues. Hope they do lol.
Sorry for pissing on glu, but everything i hear about the Unity engine, this shouldn't be happening. Unity is supposed to be, way more secure than flash, Unless they wanted FB to fail, in the first place, this shouldn't be happening. That is the only thing i can think of, they wanted it to fail at the outset.
I have been watching a game being developed, Called Oceans at War. The unity engine is described by the Dev's, as facing a battalion of marines armed with machine guns and you, with a butter knife in the middle of a mine field. I understand nothing is unhackable, but that sounds fairly secure, if the monkeys in the office knew how to implement it properly
Personally, i think the Glu staff get a no confidence vote from me and others, that will be forced out. they have not tried to provide service, they just stuck a finger in the dyke, Like the little kid in the famous story.
I know FB has issues, but you could make the game a partial DL for PC, like it is with phones and tablets. I would DL it to play, I'm sure others would as well. But of course, the PC market was doomed to fail. I'm sure this was a higher up's idea and nobody wanted it, so security was lowered to allow for mass failure.
In my opinion, GLU were the ultimate hacker. they pretended to be your friend, while sticking a knife in the backs of their own customers
E tu GLU?
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if u guys are really gonna be this retarted, please send all facebook users some sort of mobile device that will run this game smooth
and when i made a post every butt hurt mobile contrivance utilizer flush in. you wont get a penny from me
Do you intend to grow up to a big studio like this? Kicking out lots of players. I understand its much easier to focus only on 1 platform but screw it man. Just start some kinda donation thing. Im pretty sure ppl will help if you guys keep the fb version up...
All 3 are simple fixes that in your post, you said yall just changed a month ago and needs to be changed back like it was and there wont be any way at all to cheat.
I think the community would rather have a cheat free game than to put up with the tie glitching on all platforms.
Doesn't matter if a lot of people email in about being disconnected trying to get their car replaced.
Either way Facebook or not, it still has to be fixed on android and apple.
Also IF it takes a lot more resources to update Facebook then just leave it unupdated until major fixes are released.
I could care less if I had to use my mobile to buy the on sale cars and stuff like that, but I refuse to race with a platform that is 10x more laggy on your Reaction Time.
And to all the people complaining, seriously, give me a break. I have primarily played RR on my iphone5 and never had much of a problem. And those saying they refuse to go out and buy a device . . . are you saying that you currently don't own a smartphone or a tablet?? 99.99999% of everyone has one or both now a days. And as far as having to "learn" to play on a phone or tablet . . . LOL! We aren't talking about rocket science here people. It won't be that hard to "learn." Sorry but that's just a lame excuse. If you like playing this game, you will adapt. If you are quitting . . . then don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out.
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[COLOR=#6A6A6A !important]04-02-2015, 04:41[/COLOR]
For all crying FB users I am sure they are complaining because they can cheat anymore, their excuse is that they can't play on a mobile device because is hard and blah blah blah wa wa wa wa,
If they were legit players they won't be crying. everybody can learn to play anything anywhere y use both Facebook on my pc and my cell phone, and I am good on both, so the only thing I can said to all that crying babies is DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON!! let legit players have fun."
Maestro, not all of us PC users cheat or hack, I never even lobbyjumped (piggybacked) The problem is according to GLU, was it took too much resources. My translation is, they just wanted to go back to blaming your equipment. I'm a more legit player than you probably are, I walk into a lobby with a legit car and race as i see fit. Not use someone to jump in with a maxxed car just to steal someone else's work.
That said, i borrowed a tablet from my sister and have been trying to adapt. So far i'm not impressed, the lag between my command and the actual action is atrocious, During the showdown i kept getting time outs and not even connecting. With my computer those were rare, and the lag on commands never happened. If this was how the game played when i started, i'd have never got this far.
To be honest, you can't even provide a True realtime game for mobile (Lagging). It doesn't surprise me, you can't handle a competent game engine on PC. I'm giving it one week, if i can't adapt or find a better option. You will lose one very loyal PC user, because you couldn't handle it. Sorry but this game is not worth it, if not playable. Right now i'm just a collector, that's neither fun or satisfying
Quote from Brken123
"When I bought my tablet, I tried this game on several at the store. The one I bought was the ONLY one that ran it smoothly"
RYYST, I quoted Brken123's comment on my last post, to show you how far from a mobile app this is. He only found one tablet (brand probably) that could run this game smoothly. It probably had a 2+gig ram, My sisters tablet, a verizion tablet, not sure of brand, has a 1 gig ram and the game is barely playable.
My proof that this game is ram intense, I have two computers. Both are older but still decent, on most games and basic computing. I don't play WoW or WoT but i play a lot of flash games so know their capabilities. My desktop is a vista setup, yes about 6 years or so old. 2.18 gig processor with a 1 gig ram, Told you it was old. my current preferred computer is a Toshiba laptop with a 1 gig processor with a 3-4 gig ram.
The desktop, with near similar ram specs, to my sisters tablet, has the exact lag and glitch prone behavior.
The laptop however has never lagged though i have had the glitched start in a race pretty often. I attributed that to high traffic and cross platform play.
This game should be on a PC platform. It is the only medium that has the memory and ram, to sufficiently run without problems.
I can almost guarantee you, within the next couple updates, You won't have a mobile platform. Because the game will be too big to DL proper, on any phone or tablet. You are already, out growing the I pod guys. There is a thread, where an I pod guy can't DL the game anymore. So not only are you burning the PC bridge, as we speak. But very slowly, you will lose the majority of your player base to a compound implosion of the game. Who will play when no one can DL it? If you want the game to yourselves, then play on.
I'm not asking you to take it off the phones, just asking for the same thing they got. A partial DL setup would run even better than a FB app and be much more secure against hackers. You can compare, the changes in info more closely and stop the hackers better, than the FB setup. This game has less than 6 months left on mobile, unless you streamline the bandwidth. Much as i hate talking when i know i'll be ignored, i'm just trying to help. I'm no expert and i see the problems coming, like a tidal wave
You reap what you sow GLU, I'll be around to watch this game fall, you can count on that, You want to stop me from playing, Make it a suscription service.
BTW, you want to know, the possible impact of this. I got a friend, Fireman5407, heavy coiner bought enough Crates to have 1200 free boosts. He was a PC player and thinking of folding his top 100 team and walking away, he also tried a tablet and a smart phone, said both lagged so bad he couldn't play, So you probably lost a whale, By other posts here you lost former mobile users, that refuse to go back. You definitely lost my 25 a week (roughly) as you can't handle a decent game engine on PC, much less make a true real time mobile game. Just wanted to give you an example, of a whale you probably just lost. The guy left the boost on whether he bought them or not, so your only screwing your selves