Hello, new guy here.
Like in the title, I'm a bit confused by weight (reduction), power, or torque of a specific part.
First, from real life facts, afaik, power = higher top speed, torque = bigger acceleration, but I read in a post somewhere that in RR power doesn't really increase max speed of a car. For example, Evo VIII will always top out at 139mph, regardless of the power. So what does power really do in the game?
Second, I understand that less weight equals bigger acceleration, but in what correlation with power and torque? In other words, which one should I go for?
For example, which one of these pro parts should I go for (fictional parts)?
Part 1
Weight (0.00)
Power (+0.65)
Torque (+0.65)
or
Part 2:
Weight (+2.00)
Power (+2.75)
Torque (+2.80)
If there's a formula for calculating the ratios, can anybody post/teach me?
Third, a bit off title, but does getting bigger diameter wheels (around 21" or 22") make my car go faster?
Fourth, I noticed that all pro suspensions (at least the ones on my car) add weights. The lightest seems to be the stage 2 part. So are the pro suspensions beneficial?
Thank you in advance
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Secondly, get all that complexity out of your head. Unlike real life, the vehicles in-game have a fixed torque curve. All the upgrades increase both torque and power by the same percentage all the way through the power band (which is extremely unrealistic, but most games seem to take this approach, even some that call themselves simulators).
Thirdly, to determine which is most beneficial between weight and power, calculate the power to weight ratio the car will have with each upgrade. For example, if Pro A will leave the car with a final weight of 3248.50lbs and 373.45hp, it'll have 8.6986209667lbs per HP. If Pro B will give it 3246.00lbs and 372.00hp, it will have 8.7258064516lbs per HP. Since you want the lowest pounds per horsepower, Pro A is your best choice.
So in a nutshell, it's weight divided by power, and go for the lowest value possible? I'll try this asap.
What about the wheel diameter? Do bigger wheels equal faster car/shorter ET?
Also, superchargers usually appear to offer the better weight to power ratio, but the follow-on upgrades for each almost always fall into the turbo's favor if you're going for a high rating or maxing out the car.
awww. .crap.. ive been doing it backwards all this time.. f**k me.. ugh.. i need to go back and redo all my tunes then..
but when i figure mine, unless im doing it wrong when i figure:
pro a
3248 lbs and 373.45 hp i get 0.1149784
pro b
3246 lbs and 372 hp, i get 0.1146026
so in this i was picking pro a, so maybe we are coming up with selecting the same part just different math??
In the example you just gave, it appears you were dividing power by weight (373.45/3248), which would gives HP per pound, in which case you want the highest number.
It doesn't matter which you do, so long as you're aware of what the number actually means.
Not true @Dozerboy you can have 2 of the same cars, with same rating and be a second apart in some cases.
@WOLFENSTAIN LBS=pounds
I'm with you on power to weight being ineffective in this game. Z28 1656 for example. I built a tune that was well over 930 hp and somewhere in the 2800 lb area and best I could do boosted was 9.2, I bought a tune that made mid upper 800 hp and we'll over 3000 lbs and ran 8.95.
Ign's:
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http://forums.racingrivals.com/rivals/discussion/5370861/apparently/p1
Also, in regards to how much a part changes a car's rating...I attempted to figure that out once, however, it was before they changed the caps on the lobbies. One thing that I realized though - the amount a part affects the rating of a car changes not only from car to car, but also is contingent on other parts that are already installed. That, and unfortunately the rating is only shown as a whole number. So, if a part adds, for example, 1.5 points to the rating, there is no real way to see that.
Quick example - I had a car that I installed a stage 1 trans on...made the rating go up 1 point. I then returned it to stock, installed weight reduction stage 1. That made the rating go up 2 points. I then re-installed the transmission just to test to see if it would still only add 1 point...and to my surprise, it made the rating go up 2 more points. At that point, I was like "well, is the stage 1 trans worth 1 rating point, or 2?" You can test / try this out for yourself.
I was all about trying to come up with an excel sheet that took all aspects of a part into account - weight, torque, power, and rating influence - and would then be able to provide you with the best part options for any specific rating you wanted. All you would have had to do was select which car you were upgrading, and then tell it what rating you wanted the car to end up at - and it would then tell you which parts to install. Unfortunately, though, due to that rating variable that I discovered as well as a few other things, I wasn't able to get it to work right. That, and I would have had to build a sheet for each car, as while the parts available for each car are the same....the power / weight/ torque numbers provided by each part change from car to car. I ended up very frustrated, and gave up on the idea.
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