2nd Team Jailed For No Reason - What a joke! - TAKE CARE FOLKS!

dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
Angelo G.
July 08, 2019, 10:15 -0400
Hello David,

Thank you for contacting Glu Mobile Customer Care.

I understand your concern about your MLB TSB 2019 account. The account "nikkiload66" has been flagged as having participated in the exploitation of the game and is now restricted in regards to some features of the game and club participation in particular.

While we do not give out details on the detection methods used, this restriction was investigated and determined to be valid. This is a permanent restriction on this account.

We appreciate your understanding. If you have other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us anytime so we can assist you.

Regards,
Angelo G.
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  • whynotwhynot Registered Users, Member 1,749 Posts
    Thinking having “load” in your team name may be a red flag
    I'm confused by what you mean by 5.7 and 5.8.  You mean the round and level? 
    - Blueleopard
  • Scioscia_FanScioscia_Fan Registered Users, Member 266 Posts
    Your main got flagged after submitting a ticket on your alt account?
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    No my alt was jailed around 7pm on Sunday. Played cvc all weekend and then jailed. Asked CS what is going on and said its final. The team has spend 0$ and has about 13 primes on it, all from gifts or cvc. Total sham.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • JEDDDOGGYJEDDDOGGY Registered Users, Member 2,460 Posts
    edited July 2019
    Did you just cross any kind of threshold that you can think of? Maybe there is a flag for like 125k team strength with zero money spent or something like that, for example... just spitballing here...
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    @JEDDDOGGY my main team is fine and spent $$. My alt team, was jailed for no reason. no money spend, still has ads on it.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • UltimateWarriorUltimateWarrior Registered Users, Member 543 Posts
    @dkarski87 I know last year some teams were randomly jailed bc they kept pulling good players, but the team wasn’t playing. My guess is the computer programming  looks at no activity of a team and register as “new” bc it’s not played many games if any but you have all these good players throws a flag to the system. The programming thinks your loading good players on team that’s brand new like how loaders use to do all the time, but it’s just your sitter team so you don’t play on it just cvc. Just my guess.
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    Makes sense @UltimateWarrior. Team is stacked with primes and plays very little, and still has ads. So yea I assume this is the case, still bull crap and poor programming IMO.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • dustyhunksdustyhunks Registered Users, Member 1,672 Posts
    They log every transaction you make in this POS. Sounds like someone is being lazy. I would keep pumping tickets at them or keep the convo going until they hand it off to someone that gives a shit.
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    I have been,  over and over. They claim my "alt team" which is just a club holder is cheating. It DOESN'T EVEN PLAY EVENTS!!!!
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts


    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    This is for @DFBB and @Houmy. Enjoy your trip to SF, this is how they handle business. Jail teams that dont spend, pull well and  wipe their hands of it. Its a joke!  Have fun
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • HoumyHoumy Registered Users, Member 3,889 Posts
    dkarski87 said:
    This is for @DFBB and @Houmy. Enjoy your trip to SF, this is how they handle business. Jail teams that dont spend, pull well and  wipe their hands of it. Its a joke!  Have fun
    Well noted buddy. Is the nephew's team still intact though? (Too soon? I did resist the urge and waited 5-6 hours tbh)
    "Get ready for some NFTs" - VIP NEWSLETTER ca. 2022


  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    Hes fine. Thanks for asking.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • mythicaldragonmythicaldragon Registered Users, Member 2,418 Posts
    If anything needs to be brought up at vip counsel meeting it’s the jailing of teams without justification. Their cheat detection system isn’t always accurate. They jail a lot of teams that don’t spend 💰 
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    The problem  is,  they dont even review it until you ask them 100 times. it shouldn't be this difficult, their logs show everything so simply  pull it up and review. CS just send you a copy pasted response and wipes their hands of it You have to close and open new tickets over and over until you find someone who is willing to do their job and actually look at it.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • BigpredfanBigpredfan Registered Users 3,306 Posts
    dkarski87 said:
    The problem  is,  they dont even review it until you ask them 100 times. it shouldn't be this difficult, their logs show everything so simply  pull it up and review. CS just send you a copy pasted response and wipes their hands of it You have to close and open new tickets over and over until you find someone who is willing to do their job and actually look at it.
    I believe the term that @dfbb has used in previous posts is transparency. Let the customer know what issue was found. Don’t just say “flagged for exploitation” but instead say exactly what the exploitation was. Don’t be shady about it and vague, be direct in what triggered the issue. 
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    No they cannot, and I understand why. Because once they say it the hackers will adjust and know how its detected. So I have no issue with this aspect. Its how they handle it,  this happened to my nephew in 18 as @houmy joked about. He was jailed for no reason and it they gave me the same  crap response.  Took 2-3 weeks of back and fourth and thankfully the  VIP team stepped in and unjailed his account. So yes,  there detection methods are  flawed from time to time.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • dustyhunksdustyhunks Registered Users, Member 1,672 Posts
    Youtube issues DMCA takedowns all the time with "automatic detection/algorithm" even against actual sole copyright holder for their own content. In the long run it probably does more good than not but just be persistent and keep harassing them.
  • benny100benny100 Registered Users, Member 757 Posts
    This is painful to read DK - fingers crossed you get a CS agent to spend the time to review the logs and figure it out for you! Finding someone to take the time and work through can be such a battle.
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    Just such a hassle  caused a   flawed  system. They even mentioned to me now numerous times. " AUTO DETECTION SYSTEM" They aren't even looking at the team because its a non-spending team.  Bottom line for me its an alt team that doesn't even play and for it be flagged  knowing its DOESNT EVEN PLAY events,  their system is  broken. I  have the team on an old s6 droid that lags so bad you can barley play season mode let alone exploit or cheat.

    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • matt_sackettmatt_sackett Registered Users, Member 1,540 Posts
    Dude is as regular a player as Me or anyone else here, and a contributor, how the hell can they justify this crap, I have a 58K strength team that I haven't spent a dime on and its loaded too, are we just banning those that don't spend now? this is horse manure
    Nothing in life is as beautiful as the Balsamic thread.

  • ZaneJ78ZaneJ78 Registered Users, Member 369 Posts
    It sucks we have to wonder every time we open the game if we are going to be jailed for no apparent reason.
    Need more Living Legends!
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    Jeff
    July 10, 2019, 06:16 -0400
    Hello David,

    Thanks for patiently waiting.

    My name is Jeff, I'm one of the supervisors and your ticket was endorsed to me by Angelo. I understand that you would like to know as to why your "nikkiload66" account was restricted. I know that you only want to know the exact reason as to why your account has been restricted, but as you already know, we do not provide the details as to why the account has been restricted.

    The account has been thoroughly investigated before our specialist applied the restriction. Unfortunately, we can no longer make changes to the account. You may still access the "nikkiload66" account but you can no longer participate in club events.

    You may review the Community Guidelines found in this link: https://www.glu.com/terms/
    Please see 17 U.S.C. §512(c)(3) for the requirements of a proper notification. Also, please note that if you knowingly misrepresent that any activity or material on our Services is infringing, you may be liable to Glu for certain costs and damages.
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    which you've agreed to when you first install the game. We appreciate your cooperation and understanding regarding this matter.

    If you need further assistance, please let us know.

    Regards,
    Jeff


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  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
     I have asked them to perform a full review and I dont think they have even done that. There is no way this team has done anything wrong BECAUSE ITS A GOD DAM PLACE HOLDER. This has also happened to  another member of this fourm last night. His team is much like this one, its used a holder and has jailed the same way   mine was because it pulled 3 primes in in span of 24hrs without no money spent on the account.

    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • MattattackMattattack Registered Users 1,971 Posts
    @dkarski87 I know last year some teams were randomly jailed bc they kept pulling good players, but the team wasn’t playing. My guess is the computer programming  looks at no activity of a team and register as “new” bc it’s not played many games if any but you have all these good players throws a flag to the system. The programming thinks your loading good players on team that’s brand new like how loaders use to do all the time, but it’s just your sitter team so you don’t play on it just cvc. Just my guess.
    This would definitely be my take on it as well and sorry you are having to deal with this @dkarski87 .   If the boxes are truly RNG based then this probably happens a decent amount.  My place holder has actually had pretty poor luck this year so shouldnt have to deal with that but its unfortunate that its something we need to be aware of. 
  • whynotwhynot Registered Users, Member 1,749 Posts
    I am really curious why it matters if it’s just a placeholder?  It can hold a club whether it is jailed or not.  

    Seems its like complaining that someone took the last piece of pizza, even though you didn’t want it. 🍕 🤯
    I'm confused by what you mean by 5.7 and 5.8.  You mean the round and level? 
    - Blueleopard
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts
    edited July 2019
    A jailed team cannot join any clubs this year, I removed the team from my club once it was jailed. CS replied that jailed teams are prohibited from joining any clubs.  That said, others that had their teams jailed have left them in their clubs and can still access them. However once that team is removed the club is cannot rejoin ANY club. So yea am i complaining that a team was jailed for no reason? Yeap. 

    Is it just a placeholder? Sure but I have been building this team along side my main since BETA,  for a long time for it to be washed away with no cause or reason.  I cannot even play events on it because its runs on a piece of crap phone that takes 15min to load the app. Yea bud I am complaining.
    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • dkarski87dkarski87 Registered Users, Member 3,040 Posts


    "Oops we need to restart! Yeap that's 2019 for ya!"
    – The Great Houmy
  • slafrance2slafrance2 Registered Users, Member 1,370 Posts
    @dkarski87 I don't think I saw anyone post this theory, but could it just be due to "inactivity" on the account? I thought I saw you write its just a placeholder and might not play in events. Maybe that could be why? Maybe they're just trying to shut out accounts. Just a wild thought
  • retirepujolsretirepujols Registered Users, Member 4,856 Posts
    I'm curious, is a jailed placeholder team still able to invite Main teams to the club, or is it excluded from 100% of club activities?
    "It's amazing how much work you can put in without gangly-ass legs in the way" - Sir Tdub71
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