Things Glu did right.

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  • ToughthundercatsToughthundercats New Member Registered Users, Member 1,889 Posts
    whynot said:
    As long as guys are willing to drop hundreds of dollars a week then glu will continue to take it, who wouldn’t?!?  Reality is your either part of the problem (big spender) or part of the solution.
    What do you think the solution is at this point? Big spenders stop spending? A complete cultural overall at GLU? There's a point in time where there is no turning back or fixing things because things are too broke, is the game getting to that point? 
  • 2003cobra2003cobra Registered Users, Member 2,507 Posts
    How about a total strike next Monday. Glu might get the point if nobody played
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    2003cobra said:
    How about a total strike next Monday. Glu might get the point if nobody played
    It would have to take the whales to do this and be organized. In that stupid CSR2 racing game, they were pulling similar shit to Glu. There was a FB page called Elite Racers and they got fed up, so they planned and organized a “No Spending Strike”. After a couple of days, management reached out to them for a “conversation”. It worked. 🤷‍♂️
    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • jalapenocubbiesjalapenocubbies Registered Users, Member 1,004 Posts
    whynot said:
    As long as guys are willing to drop hundreds of dollars a week then glu will continue to take it, who wouldn’t?!?  Reality is your either part of the problem (big spender) or part of the solution.
    What do you think the solution is at this point? Big spenders stop spending? A complete cultural overall at GLU? There's a point in time where there is no turning back or fixing things because things are too broke, is the game getting to that point? 
    The game is always fixable. For me it’s guaranteeing a top player after a certain amount spent. That’s all it would take. I don’t care what it is, 100k, 120k, something to make it all stop. I just don’t think they will ever do it. Most of the decisions made are 100% in favor of the game regardless of how they try to spin it. If there is ever a benefit to the players it comes at the cost of something else. Boycotts don’t work and to be honest are just a dumb idea. In the end it’s up to each person to decide when they need/want to stop. I know atleast 2 other vips I’ve played with since 17 who will be stopping after this season, and 1 who didn’t play this whole season. Maybe eventually but doubtful with as many people still playing. 
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    @jalapenocubbies 100% agree with guaranteed stud after X amount spent. In that racing game I mentioned, if you want the stud car, you’ve got it after so much resources are spent. Not just a chance at it. An equal equivalent to this game would be 500 gold. Offer ONE freaking player and after 15 boxes, he’s yours, if not sooner. And the better the stud, the costlier the box. But at least you know you’re getting him eventually. Or like ‘18, sell them at a fair price. But the boycott actually worked in CSR2, those spenders meant business. Even CS changed. 
    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • whynotwhynot Registered Users, Member 1,634 Posts
    whynot said:
    As long as guys are willing to drop hundreds of dollars a week then glu will continue to take it, who wouldn’t?!?  Reality is your either part of the problem (big spender) or part of the solution.
    What do you think the solution is at this point? Big spenders stop spending? A complete cultural overall at GLU? There's a point in time where there is no turning back or fixing things because things are too broke, is the game getting to that point? 
    Seems to me the only way things change is if people get fed up and stop spending, resulting in a loss of profit.  Until that happens it will only get worse, and I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
    I'm confused by what you mean by 5.7 and 5.8.  You mean the round and level? 
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  • cb11cb11 Registered Users, Member 313 Posts
    edited January 5
    The game is always fixable. For me it’s guaranteeing a top player after a certain amount spent. That’s all it would take. I don’t care what it is, 100k, 120k, something to make it all stop. I just don’t think they will ever do it. Most of the decisions made are 100% in favor of the game regardless of how they try to spin it. If there is ever a benefit to the players it comes at the cost of something else. Boycotts don’t work and to be honest are just a dumb idea. In the end it’s up to each person to decide when they need/want to stop. I know atleast 2 other vips I’ve played with since 17 who will be stopping after this season, and 1 who didn’t play this whole season. Maybe eventually but doubtful with as many people still playing. 
    It's the same thing on WOH. Put in an exact timer of when you get the player. Every time, every 3rd cycle, whatever it is. The whole game model has been worse odds, with less guarantee. It drives the high-spenders deeper down the whole because if they're already a couple $1000 deep, then they need to keep going. It makes them mad and is just alienating the rest of us. If you've ever gone to a casino and walked around the slot machines, you'll see the same thing. No one has a smile on their face and they keep playing and playing until those rare jackpots. TSB has simply become a slot machine with some eyewash on top. 
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    @cb11 at least they could comp our favorite beverages
    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    This was, IMHO, the BEST EVER box they came up with. 12/27/18 was when they popped up for the ‘17 game. Either guaranteed studs or ridiculous amounts of XP. Boxes cheap, can’t remember exact amount, but I immediately bought the $69 Gold deal (One time only, of course) and loaded up on boxes. So did many others once they found out. Pretty much different from today, no?


    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • retirepujolsretirepujols Registered Users, Member 4,402 Posts
    tshea510 said:
    This was, IMHO, the BEST EVER box they came up with. 12/27/18 was when they popped up for the ‘17 game. Either guaranteed studs or ridiculous amounts of XP. Boxes cheap, can’t remember exact amount, but I immediately bought the $69 Gold deal (One time only, of course) and loaded up on boxes. So did many others once they found out. Pretty much different from today, no?


    Wow, look at that! Their stats aren't identical! The switch hitting thing is absurd, but looks like a fun box (for the time). I'm curious to verify, though, it was released in the 17 game in December 2018, 2 months before 2019 beta?
    "It's amazing how much work you can put in without gangly-ass legs in the way" - Sir Tdub71
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    edited January 5
    tshea510 said:
    This was, IMHO, the BEST EVER box they came up with. 12/27/18 was when they popped up for the ‘17 game. Either guaranteed studs or ridiculous amounts of XP. Boxes cheap, can’t remember exact amount, but I immediately bought the $69 Gold deal (One time only, of course) and loaded up on boxes. So did many others once they found out. Pretty much different from today, no?


    Wow, look at that! Their stats aren't identical! The switch hitting thing is absurd, but looks like a fun box (for the time). I'm curious to verify, though, it was released in the 17 game in December 2018, 2 months before 2019 beta?
    Yes, just a little bit after Holiday Ted. etc, in ‘18 game. They were the very best for that time. I need to go back and check, not sure if actual players were switch hitters. And as you can see, I was actually Gold once. Once.😎
    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • jalapenocubbiesjalapenocubbies Registered Users, Member 1,004 Posts
    tshea510 said:
    This was, IMHO, the BEST EVER box they came up with. 12/27/18 was when they popped up for the ‘17 game. Either guaranteed studs or ridiculous amounts of XP. Boxes cheap, can’t remember exact amount, but I immediately bought the $69 Gold deal (One time only, of course) and loaded up on boxes. So did many others once they found out. Pretty much different from today, no?


    Wow, look at that! Their stats aren't identical! The switch hitting thing is absurd, but looks like a fun box (for the time). I'm curious to verify, though, it was released in the 17 game in December 2018, 2 months before 2019 beta?
    yes, it was released in tap17 around the holidays in 2018 all of those guys were available throughout the season other than Lindor. He was never officially released until that box came out. Him and LL Jansen. Although....I heard you could get him before that. 
  • retirepujolsretirepujols Registered Users, Member 4,402 Posts
    Interesting that they would release a new box in a previous version 🤔 especially when looking at the recent removal of certain things in past versions 🤣 
    "It's amazing how much work you can put in without gangly-ass legs in the way" - Sir Tdub71
  • tshea510tshea510 Registered Users, Member 1,364 Posts
    Interesting that they would release a new box in a previous version 🤔 especially when looking at the recent removal of certain things in past versions 🤣 
    I’ll go out on a limb and say they had decision makers that knew what they were doing instead of the present bunch in charge.
    Just a Silver team from the wrong side of the tracks, so what do I know? 🤷‍♂️
  • YardGoatsYardGoats Registered Users, Member 318 Posts
    I would like to see them add monthly pity timer that after you open “x” amount of boxes you get An ATG. The box can be all the ATG that have been introduced. The could even do that at the beginning of year and you get the best bxp players that month and then prime/legend players

    Also the box odds only make sense if this wasn’t a yearly game. I play a marvel game that the new players have terrible odds but the game is continuous (it’s on year 6) and doesn’t reset each year. So you have to pay for the new player! But you get to keep them and are useful for life! ATG ( From a bonus point standpoint) are useless after two weeks! They would be helpful but you need to bench them because You need to play bonus guy at the same position.

    I would also like make the actual MLB players be more useful when the season ends. Don’t get why primes can’t be closer to the legends. 
  • ToughthundercatsToughthundercats New Member Registered Users, Member 1,889 Posts
    YardGoats said:
    I would like to see them add monthly pity timer that after you open “x” amount of boxes you get An ATG. The box can be all the ATG that have been introduced. The could even do that at the beginning of year and you get the best bxp players that month and then prime/legend players

    Also the box odds only make sense if this wasn’t a yearly game. I play a marvel game that the new players have terrible odds but the game is continuous (it’s on year 6) and doesn’t reset each year. So you have to pay for the new player! But you get to keep them and are useful for life! ATG ( From a bonus point standpoint) are useless after two weeks! They would be helpful but you need to bench them because You need to play bonus guy at the same position.

    I would also like make the actual MLB players be more useful when the season ends. Don’t get why primes can’t be closer to the legends. 
    I agree 💯% with the second paragraph! That is actually the primary reason why I stopped spending money on this game. If I got to keep my players (yes I know we have keepers but for only one year and at a fraction of what they were) and this love to hate app didn't reset from year to year (which makes absolutely no sense other than from a greed standpoint) I would probably be spending money knowing at least I'd get to keep what I paid for. Mostly because of that and amongst other previous discussed reasons....no, nope, never!
  • ToughthundercatsToughthundercats New Member Registered Users, Member 1,889 Posts
    Besides which paying for tattoos on my wife look so much hotter...
  • Piglet1899Piglet1899 Registered Users, Member 195 Posts
    Only discovered this game this year as we entered lockdown and working from home. My usual hobbies not being an option has saved me about £6k this year. I’ve spent enough to become a VIP a few weeks ago. As it’s a fraction of what I’ve saved and it’s filled my spare time that’s ok. 

    Fast forward to TAP21 and they want me to get enthused about chasing a 128 max player in a box? Can’t see it. 

    I’ve played PES football for 4 years. They launch a new game every year but you can keep all your old players. They score points at a lower level than the new players you can get but you can still enjoy the game without spending. 
  • DirectFXDirectFX New Member Registered Users 97 Posts
    With the amounts being spent in this thread they gonna need a TSB Anonymous support group in 21 ... Think start on some interventions with club mates .. Glu is not a charity or non profit so they have no responsibility to stop you from spending and if you can’t control yourself then it’s more of a you problem than Glu. Just don’t spend and Glu with get the message better than any chat, forum or CS rant . Seems should also try to ask the VIPs who spoke for all the players what they actually told Glu at Vip meeting or did they just gloss over the problems and were kissing arse so they could get invited back next year ?? The odds are horrible this year yet see more and more VIPs this year and in clubs , seems like a lot more vip badges in general this year players spending but nothing changing. 
  • babyjbootsbabyjboots Registered Users, Member 465 Posts
    I don't know what was said at the VIP meetings but from the messages after it, people appeared to be wined and dined and Glu really isn't that bad and they're trying their best yada yada yada... Same after last year's meeting.  Not that it's all the VIPs fault.  It's harder to tell someone to their face what you honestly think and they're VIPs anyway so they're spending cash.
  • jalapenocubbiesjalapenocubbies Registered Users, Member 1,004 Posts
    I don't know what was said at the VIP meetings but from the messages after it, people appeared to be wined and dined and Glu really isn't that bad and they're trying their best yada yada yada... Same after last year's meeting.  Not that it's all the VIPs fault.  It's harder to tell someone to their face what you honestly think and they're VIPs anyway so they're spending cash.
    we spent hours discussing things within the game. I can promise you almost every issue was discussed. Unfortunately, we don’t have control on actual change. They implemented things like the X factor to keepers right away. But other things, even minor simple changes, have no been addressed yet. I’m not going to get Into specifics as I don’t Know what we can and can not share, but I promise most of the heartburns felt by the players were discussed. And most of them for hours. But ultimately it’s their decision to make the changes not ours. 
  • babyjbootsbabyjboots Registered Users, Member 465 Posts
    That's too bad.  If you're building a product, the best thing you can get is direct constructive feedback.  Too bad they don't do as much with it but at this point no one should be surprised.
  • DFBBDFBB Registered Users, Moderators, Member, Moderator 6,349 Posts
    I don't know what was said at the VIP meetings but from the messages after it, people appeared to be wined and dined and Glu really isn't that bad and they're trying their best yada yada yada... Same after last year's meeting.  Not that it's all the VIPs fault.  It's harder to tell someone to their face what you honestly think and they're VIPs anyway so they're spending cash.
    We were definitely wined and dined. I've made no secret of that and to be blunt, it was pretty cool. As far as feedback and concerns, all we can do is bring up topics and create awareness. I can assure you that everything brought up here and on other social outlets have reached their eyes and ears. The thing is, bringing something to their attention doesn't necessarily mean it will get adjusted. In order for changes to happen, it also needs to make sense for them. 

    If you're not having fun, you're losing.
  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte Registered Users, Member 1,552 Posts
    Wasn’t this all virtual?  How does one wine and dine via zoom?  They send you steak via door dash?
  • 2003cobra2003cobra Registered Users, Member 2,507 Posts
    I feel very confident that you guys were well prepared and brought up all of the issues that we’ve expressed in the forum and all of the other avenues that Glu has for TSB. We have to understand that the vip council can only air our complaints and make suggestions. What Glu does that information is up to them. On behalf of the forum members I would like to thank the VIPs that took time out of their busy schedules and time away from their families to represent us. 
  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte Registered Users, Member 1,552 Posts
    YardGoats said:
    I would like to see them add monthly pity timer that after you open “x” amount of boxes you get An ATG. The box can be all the ATG that have been introduced. The could even do that at the beginning of year and you get the best bxp players that month and then prime/legend players

    Also the box odds only make sense if this wasn’t a yearly game. I play a marvel game that the new players have terrible odds but the game is continuous (it’s on year 6) and doesn’t reset each year. So you have to pay for the new player! But you get to keep them and are useful for life! ATG ( From a bonus point standpoint) are useless after two weeks! They would be helpful but you need to bench them because You need to play bonus guy at the same position.

    I would also like make the actual MLB players be more useful when the season ends. Don’t get why primes can’t be closer to the legends. 
    The very simple fix here is to combine the current pity timer concept with the monthly box/player thing.  Open XXX number of boxes and you land the ATG.  It’s stunningly simple.
  • jalapenocubbiesjalapenocubbies Registered Users, Member 1,004 Posts
    Wasn’t this all virtual?  How does one wine and dine via zoom?  They send you steak via door dash?
    Actually sorta yeah. We were allowed money for food, we did receive so nice swag, as well as a nice in game gift. I say it jokingly but I didn’t pull anything from the gift, but it was still nice. There is no doubt from my side they did all they could to make the experience great given the limitations. As we’ve all said and Alex and I mentioned. We brought up almost heartburn someone could have, they have to decide what to do with it based on what makes sense for them. I would agree their are simple solutions, but if you ran a company and a few average spenders stopped spending but you kept the majority of them would you make changes? There’s also other things I think that need to change before they up the guranteed like I’ve recommended but it won’t happen. It sucks because I genuinely enjoy the game and I don’t want to stop playing but, at this point I’m out of options. I will say my nephew is having fun with my team while he stays with us for a bit. 
  • samthemansamtheman New Member Registered Users, Member 630 Posts
    Once upon a time fan rewards was on weekends only and functioned in the manner you guys would like to see in a pity timer. At least through TSB ‘16 if you hit the top tier of FR you got one of the best players available guaranteed. In ‘16 it was about 30k gold to get there. There’s no reason it couldn’t be bought back though I doubt 30k gold would get you there now.
  • jalapenocubbiesjalapenocubbies Registered Users, Member 1,004 Posts
    samtheman said:
    Once upon a time fan rewards was on weekends only and functioned in the manner you guys would like to see in a pity timer. At least through TSB ‘16 if you hit the top tier of FR you got one of the best players available guaranteed. In ‘16 it was about 30k gold to get there. There’s no reason it couldn’t be bought back though I doubt 30k gold would get you there now.
    Even in TSB17 this was the same. They didn’t have ATG in 17 but at the top level of FR was a Sig Legend. They were the top players in the game, behind only Living Legends, but Living Legends were never bonus players(beyond Kluber 1x). I completely understand the game has evolved. I am hopeful somewhere, sooner rather than later, they can get back to this. I would agree the way the game is structured it would and probably should cost more, significantly more gold to obtain the player, but in the end a gurantee should be there. 
  • lovingcurveslovingcurves Registered Users, Member 235 Posts
    All I need to have fun again is an autotapper and GG up and running. I’m not asking much tbh.
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