6, 7, and 8! Idk how Iâm getting these scores - very happy lol but itâs just weird because the last couple of sys events I didnât do nearly this well!
6, 7, and 8! Idk how Iâm getting these scores - very happy lol but itâs just weird because the last couple of sys events I didnât do nearly this well!
You're getting those scores because you're doll is gorgeous and your looks are đĽđĽ!!Â
Fangirl, Intersectional Feminist, Activist, Writer (author, some would say). #YouDefineYou she/her Android User from way back
Looks 6-11! I'm still surprised and happy about these scores! And yes I used the dress from the Michigan quest 2 looks in a row. I worked hard to get the K-stars for it so I'm going to rock that b*tch!
Fangirl, Intersectional Feminist, Activist, Writer (author, some would say). #YouDefineYou she/her Android User from way back
6, 7, and 8! Idk how Iâm getting these scores - very happy lol but itâs just weird because the last couple of sys events I didnât do nearly this well!
You're getting those scores because you're doll is gorgeous and your looks are đĽđĽ!!Â
Had a rough start but my scores have picked up. I might be able to snag the final earnable.
I'm a feminist, activist, fangirl, princess and a pet parent. Yes, a princess AND a feminist. The duality in my personality makes me great! Android User off an on from 2014
Iâm flopping hard too but anyway I love runway themesÂ
Girl... why u changing your skin tone like itâs part of the outfit? Make it make senseđł us poc girls as well as our ally dolls agree this ainât right..
So, this will probably go over like a lead balloon, but as someone who has submitted POC looks in the past I wanted to explain where I was coming from and why I didnât think it was offensive. Since learning that POC players find this to be a hurtful action, I have stopped doing it, and I donât mean to excuse people who do it but rather provide an explanation for how someone might do it and not realize it would be offensive.
Before reading these forums, the way I viewed SYS events was as though I was a casting director casting models for a show. Because of that, I didnât want to cast only white models. I would include Asian and Black dolls because I think representation is important. For example, for the Korean Street Style SYS, I created a lot of Korean doll looks because I imagined that for a runway show with that theme I would want to cast a lot of Korean models.
I realize now that most people here see your doll as one person who is entering a competition, and in that context, I absolutely agree that skin color is not something that can and should be put on like a costume, since that trivializes the experiences of POC.
I hope this doesnât cause people to hate me (any more than they already hate me for being a ticket buyer) but I also think itâs important to own up to my past behavior.
To everyone who I have hurt by doing this, I am genuinely sorry.
I started off scoring well, then it went bad and now my looks are slowly getting better. Hopefully it carries on as I want to reach the last earnable and possibly stay in gold.
So, this will probably go over like a lead balloon, but as someone who has submitted POC looks in the past I wanted to explain where I was coming from and why I didnât think it was offensive. Since learning that POC players find this to be a hurtful action, I have stopped doing it, and I donât mean to excuse people who do it but rather provide an explanation for how someone might do it and not realize it would be offensive.
Before reading these forums, the way I viewed SYS events was as though I was a casting director casting models for a show. Because of that, I didnât want to cast only white models. I would include Asian and Black dolls because I think representation is important. For example, for the Korean Street Style SYS, I created a lot of Korean doll looks because I imagined that for a runway show with that theme I would want to cast a lot of Korean models.
I realize now that most people here see your doll as one person who is entering a competition, and in that context, I absolutely agree that skin color is not something that can and should be put on like a costume, since that trivializes the experiences of POC.
I hope this doesnât cause people to hate me (any more than they already hate me for being a ticket buyer) but I also think itâs important to own up to my past behavior.
To everyone who I have hurt by doing this, I am genuinely sorry.
Thank you for you explaining your reasoning! You are not alone, everyone plays this game different đ I also think as a creative director/designer and this game is perfect for it IMO! I would even say me and my friends think of it as playing Barbie dolls even!Â
 Personally I do not input myself into my dolls because I donât vision myself as them, heck not in this game or Animal Crossing or Sims or any virtual game of that nature that I have ever played.Â
 I agree never, not once was there ever ill will in our gaming! If you are a player who does input themselves into their doll GREAT! Thatâs awesome do you doll! But just because your point of view how YOU play it doesnât determine how other players play. Letâs keep it pushing and be better together to create a better space for beginners, remember in a world where you can be anything BE KIND! Everyone is not the same but we are human! đ I am a POC, I speak 3 languages, and English is not my first language! đŚ
It might be that it's just my head hurting from not eating and sleeping enough but why has the conversation about culture appropriation/appreciation started again? This is just a genuine question bc I haven't been as active on the forum as I used to be (it's my birthday and all)
So, this will probably go over like a lead balloon, but as someone who has submitted POC looks in the past I wanted to explain where I was coming from and why I didnât think it was offensive. Since learning that POC players find this to be a hurtful action, I have stopped doing it, and I donât mean to excuse people who do it but rather provide an explanation for how someone might do it and not realize it would be offensive.
Before reading these forums, the way I viewed SYS events was as though I was a casting director casting models for a show. Because of that, I didnât want to cast only white models. I would include Asian and Black dolls because I think representation is important. For example, for the Korean Street Style SYS, I created a lot of Korean doll looks because I imagined that for a runway show with that theme I would want to cast a lot of Korean models.
I realize now that most people here see your doll as one person who is entering a competition, and in that context, I absolutely agree that skin color is not something that can and should be put on like a costume, since that trivializes the experiences of POC.
I hope this doesnât cause people to hate me (any more than they already hate me for being a ticket buyer) but I also think itâs important to own up to my past behavior.
To everyone who I have hurt by doing this, I am genuinely sorry.
Thank you for you explaining your reasoning! You are not alone, everyone plays this game different đ I also think as a creative director/designer and this game is perfect for it IMO! I would even say me and my friends think of it as playing Barbie dolls even!Â
 Personally I do not input myself into my dolls because I donât vision myself as them, heck not in this game or Animal Crossing or Sims or any virtual game of that nature that I have ever played.Â
 I agree never, not once was there ever ill will in our gaming! If you are a player who does input themselves into their doll GREAT! Thatâs awesome do you doll! But just because your point of view how YOU play it doesnât determine how other players play. Letâs keep it pushing and be better together to create a better space for beginners, remember in a world where you can be anything BE KIND! Everyone is not the same but we are human! đ I am a POC, I speak 3 languages, and English is not my first language! đŚ
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Thank you 𼰠I agree, kindness is the important thing. I noticed someone used the LOL react on my post and I donât know if thatâs because they think my comment is silly or pathetic but to me the main thing is to be aware and make the choice not to hurt anyone intentionally once you are aware.
Thatâs me! Iâve never been spotted before! Thank you so much đđĽşđ I'm glad someone liked it because I have no idea what i'm doing and just reusing my looks from the Haute Couture sys đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I am fairly new to the forum (I was a lurker up until a few days ago) so I understand if I may come off the wrong way but from what I personally understand, the problem isn't people not playing as themselves but rather them changing their skintone to something darker and using POC hairstyles for specific SYS. While from what I've personally have seen it seems to happen mostly in SYS about animals and aliens and etc. I don't think that many people here care whether or not you're playing as yourself but I think they care about more as to why it only seem to happen often during said specific SYS and not others that are about class or elegance. I've seen this thing happen too in the Korean street style SYS and the Kimono (an extremely beautiful clothing from Japan) was used there and some outfits whose patterns reminds me of Chinese culture. From the perspective of another POC, I think it's normal that people will question why this is happening so often, especially here where there have been situations where POC frustration was mocked by others. I don't intend to start a fight, also just sharing what I've personally understood from what was shared here.
So, this will probably go over like a lead balloon, but as someone who has submitted POC looks in the past I wanted to explain where I was coming from and why I didnât think it was offensive. Since learning that POC players find this to be a hurtful action, I have stopped doing it, and I donât mean to excuse people who do it but rather provide an explanation for how someone might do it and not realize it would be offensive.
Before reading these forums, the way I viewed SYS events was as though I was a casting director casting models for a show. Because of that, I didnât want to cast only white models. I would include Asian and Black dolls because I think representation is important. For example, for the Korean Street Style SYS, I created a lot of Korean doll looks because I imagined that for a runway show with that theme I would want to cast a lot of Korean models.
I realize now that most people here see your doll as one person who is entering a competition, and in that context, I absolutely agree that skin color is not something that can and should be put on like a costume, since that trivializes the experiences of POC.
I hope this doesnât cause people to hate me (any more than they already hate me for being a ticket buyer) but I also think itâs important to own up to my past behavior.
To everyone who I have hurt by doing this, I am genuinely sorry.
This is how I play, itâs how Iâve always played, and I will not be changing my stance on this. I work in fashion marketing. My literal job is to bring a cohesive feel to a diverse set of models. I canât fathom how this is offensive, and Iâm not interested in having further discourse on this topic.Â
However, Iâve also seen countless examples of dolls here being very upset when a player posts using multiple skin tones. Often times itâs for a really good reason (jungle themes, etc). The playerâs intent is always unknown, and that makes the presentation a really fine line. The internet doesnât respond well to nuance.
I reserve the right to play however I want. No one gets to tell me whatâs right and wrong with regards to that. But I also strive every day to be a decent human. This means not posting things that are blatantly hurtful or inflammatory. Itâs everyoneâs responsibility to know what might fall into that category. Changing skin tones is there, itâs just hurtful to some people.Â
Everyone who plays like me is welcome to do so, but post at your own risk. Your positive intent doesnât negate the experience of POC dolls who see it negatively. Similarly, your freedom to play how you want doesnât exempt you from criticism when you post everything on a public forum.Â
TLDR: how you play is not black and white, but how you present yourself matters. Donât post things that you know could hurt others.Â
I do hope my comment didn't offend anyone. I just thought I'd share a little bit of light as to why this may be offensive. I just felt like everytime this discussion happens, somehow the actual reason why it started seems to be always forgotten because the spotlight goes to something completely different and us POC dolls who feel like our skintone is being used as a costume for a SYS that is linked to extremely hurtful stereotypes, are made out to be oversensitive. I personally don't see how using a darker doll or POC hair is done out of positive intent considering that (and other similar SYS) are the only place people feel the need to do so. If you don't want to have discussions about this topic, it's fine. It's not a light topic altogether and it's not something you should be forced to have but just because you think your actions and words may have little to no damage, that doesn't make it automatically true. I have seen this discussion happen from time to time since I've been lurking here and it's disappointing that the points that have been made several times (especially the ones which people always bring up as a defense as to why they feel like a black doll is more appropriate for a jungle themed SYS or an alien themed SYS) seem to be always ignored and questioned in a rather rude and arrogant manner.
I do hope my comment didn't offend anyone. I just thought I'd share a little bit of light as to why this may be offensive. I just felt like everytime this discussion happens, somehow the actual reason why it started seems to be always forgotten because the spotlight goes to something completely different and us POC dolls who feel like our skintone is being used as a costume for a SYS that is linked to extremely hurtful stereotypes, are made out to be oversensitive. I personally don't see how using a darker doll or POC hair is done out of positive intent considering that (and other similar SYS) are the only place people feel the need to do so. If you don't want to have discussions about this topic, it's fine. It's not a light topic altogether and it's not something you should be forced to have but just because you think your actions and words may have little to no damage, that doesn't make it automatically true. I have seen this discussion happen from time to time since I've been lurking here and it's disappointing that the points that have been made several times (especially the ones which people always bring up as a defense as to why they feel like a black doll is more appropriate for a jungle themed SYS or an alien themed SYS) seem to be always ignored and questioned in a rather rude and arrogant manner.
I do agree that the topic of using dark skintones as a signifier of âotheringâ in the context of alien or jungle SYS is a whole different kettle of fish and my intent was never to derail any discussion about that topic. In this case, the topic that was brought up was about a player who was using an array of skintones in the Paris runway SYS, so I was talking more about why someone might do that in a context like this. I wasnât meaning to justify it, just discuss it. And to clarify, I was talking about my own use of POC dolls in everyday SYS as was being discussed upthread.
I hope you donât feel that I made you or any other POC out to be oversensitive, or that Iâm deliberately derailing a more important conversation. That definitely wasnât my intent and if I did so I apologize. My goal here is to share some thoughts, hear some new ones, and hopefully come away knowing something I didnât know before.
Last, Iâm not sure if my posts are the rude and arrogant ones youâre talking about. I hope not, but if so, I would be grateful for any additional feedback you can give me so that I can work on my tone, because if so, there is a definite disparity between what I mean to say and what I am actually communicating.
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Oh, do you remember how you got the 2nd and 6th looks' hairs + 5th looks' dress? They're gorgeous!
The 6th hair was from the crystal gala SYS 3/25/2021 and the 2nd hair is from a VIP event on 1/1/21. I got it during the throwback sale. đ
Pictures taken from the event encyclopedia.
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Before reading these forums, the way I viewed SYS events was as though I was a casting director casting models for a show. Because of that, I didnât want to cast only white models. I would include Asian and Black dolls because I think representation is important. For example, for the Korean Street Style SYS, I created a lot of Korean doll looks because I imagined that for a runway show with that theme I would want to cast a lot of Korean models.
I realize now that most people here see your doll as one person who is entering a competition, and in that context, I absolutely agree that skin color is not something that can and should be put on like a costume, since that trivializes the experiences of POC.
I hope this doesnât cause people to hate me (any more than they already hate me for being a ticket buyer) but I also think itâs important to own up to my past behavior.
To everyone who I have hurt by doing this, I am genuinely sorry.
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I am a POC, I speak 3 languages, and English is not my first language! đŚ
iOS (daily playerâď¸)
I'm glad someone liked it because I have no idea what i'm doing and just reusing my looks from the Haute Couture sys đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I reserve the right to play however I want. No one gets to tell me whatâs right and wrong with regards to that. But I also strive every day to be a decent human. This means not posting things that are blatantly hurtful or inflammatory. Itâs everyoneâs responsibility to know what might fall into that category. Changing skin tones is there, itâs just hurtful to some people.Â
I hope you donât feel that I made you or any other POC out to be oversensitive, or that Iâm deliberately derailing a more important conversation. That definitely wasnât my intent and if I did so I apologize. My goal here is to share some thoughts, hear some new ones, and hopefully come away knowing something I didnât know before.
Last, Iâm not sure if my posts are the rude and arrogant ones youâre talking about. I hope not, but if so, I would be grateful for any additional feedback you can give me so that I can work on my tone, because if so, there is a definite disparity between what I mean to say and what I am actually communicating.