@FarahxKKH rockstar isnt an excuse to use poc hair styles lets not do that.
I'm sure this is American thing but braids originate from ancient Egypt and Farah is literally Egyptian. It's also a traditional practice in South Asia where Hindu sadhus have had dreadlocks for thousands of years till date and even till a decade ago, women would not be allowed to leave their homes without braided hair. You all should probably get some history lessons or learn about other culturesĀ
LMAO when will yāall drop the act š braids, which is an umbrella term is different from box braids, corn rows and other braids poc do.
Ā āHistoryĀ tells usĀ cornrows originatedĀ in Africa. ... āCornrowsĀ on women date back to at least 3000 B.C. and as far back as the nineteenth century for men, particularly in Ethiopia. Warriors and kings were identified by their braided hairstylesāĀ Ā
āĀ Box braidsĀ can be dated as far back as 3500 B.C. in South Africa. TheĀ box braidsĀ all know and love today aren't that different from the EembuviĀ braidsĀ of Namibia or the chin-length bobĀ braidsĀ of the women of the Nile Valley from over 3,000 years ago.ā
āTheĀ originĀ ofĀ braidsĀ can be traced back 5000 years inĀ AfricanĀ culture to 3500 BCāthey were very popular among women.āĀ BraidsĀ are not just a style; this craft is a form of art. āBraidingstarted in Africa with the Himba people of Namibia,ā says Alysa Pace of Bomane Salon. ...Ā BraidingĀ was and is a social art.āĀ
āCornrowsĀ were used to transfer and create maps with the intention to leave the home of the captors. Such a method for escaping was easy to hide from theĀ slaveĀ masters. The act of using hair as a tool for rebellion was also spread to other parts of South America that had AfricanĀ slaveĀ populations.ā
āManyĀ African women braided rice or seeds into their hair before journeying the Middle Passage, on their way to enslavement or braided it into their childrenās hair before separation, so that they could eat.ā
@Stanislav1103, when you didn't get the black friday discount literally every doll on here came to your defense. Please respect the feelings of others when so many have respected yours when you had something negative happen to youĀ
Here's the thing, I am not being disrespectful. The girl attacked Farah for using curly hair. I don't agree with that. We're not offending anyone and I am as far from racist as I could be! I have a different point of view, since I collect dolls irl and for me the game is that- a virtual doll. I collect dolls from all different cultures and parts of the world and for me admiring all skin tones and hair styles is not a racism. If they're available in the game , it's because it's for all of us to enjoy them. It's the same with real life dolls! A white girl could and should play with dolls from all races and vice versa. This is no different to me. That's how we learn and expand our horizons. No need to get offended, considering this is a Kim Kardashian game ,and Kim herself was accused of cultural appropriation several times. No one is trying to hurt anyone's feelings. We're here to admire and enjoy diversity! Not to close our minds and be nasty for no reason!Ā
I wasn't talking about you. Not everything is personally addressed. I was saying that there's no need for this. A girl said on Facebook and I loved it "culture is like love , if you share it , it gets bigger! " ā¤
@Stanislav1103, when you didn't get the black friday discount literally every doll on here came to your defense. Please respect the feelings of others when so many have respected yours when you had something negative happen to youĀ
Here's the thing, I am not being disrespectful. The girl attacked Farah for using curly hair. I don't agree with that. We're not offending anyone and I am as far from racist as I could be! I have a different point of view, since I collect dolls irl and for me the game is that- a virtual doll. I collect dolls from all different cultures and parts of the world and for me admiring all skin tones and hair styles is not a racism. If they're available in the game , it's because it's for all of us to enjoy them. It's the same with real life dolls! A white girl could and should play with dolls from all races and vice versa. This is no different to me. That's how we learn and expand our horizons. No need to get offended, considering this is a Kim Kardashian game ,and Kim herself was accused of cultural appropriation several times. No one is trying to hurt anyone's feelings. We're here to admire and enjoy diversity! Not to close our minds and be nasty for no reason!Ā
Well said Stani, We did not try to hurt anyone, or offend anyone or make fun of any culture or any doll, she is the one who decided to come up with my post which was originally on facebook and make a fuss about it for no reason! a doll just told me a quote and I thought it would be nice if I share it with you maybe by then, you would understand me "culture is like love, when you spread it, it gets bigger" . If you still think that sharing sys inspo for both all dolls was not correct, then you can say whatever you want after this comment, I won't say anything more about this again, Thank you all
@FarahxKKH rockstar isnt an excuse to use poc hair styles lets not do that.
I'm sure this is American thing but braids originate from ancient Egypt and Farah is literally Egyptian. It's also a traditional practice in South Asia where Hindu sadhus have had dreadlocks for thousands of years till date and even till a decade ago, women would not be allowed to leave their homes without braided hair. You all should probably get some history lessons or learn about other culturesĀ
This is soo true. I am Indian and yogis( people who meditate) have dreadlocks. This is still present and it is going on from thousands of years. Even many priests and there family members have it, it is supposed to show a sign of respect and means we have let go of worldly pleasure. Girls have to braid their hair as soon as we start going to school, as it is a part of uniform. Most of the elder women in my family have braids. Braids and other hairstyles are not just American. Americans need to understand there is a whole world outside America. Thank you for reading this. Lets respect everyone and every culture.Ā
What??? We can use whatever hair, skin tone and face features we want! We can change, play with it and it's our own choice! Why are you people getting offended by LITERALLY EVERYTHING???Ā P.S. Great job with the inspo Farah!!!Ā
white people never learn do they... they think they're above everything and other cultures are just glorified closets that they can pick and choose what they want from without with any regard for what those things actually mean or represent for the people they were meant for
I understand the frustration of white people using poc hair and darker skin tones when they think it fits the theme better and I 100% agree that thatās not ok. But please donāt say that all white people are the same because thatās everything but true. There also are a lot of white people who totally understand the pain and frustration some black people are going through because of things like this. It really makes me sad if thatās the way black people think of white people. And again, I totally understand that some things in this game are everything but ok and I totally agree that white people/dolls shouldnāt use anything thatās only meant for black dolls.
@Stanislav1103, when you didn't get the black friday discount literally every doll on here came to your defense. Please respect the feelings of others when so many have respected yours when you had something negative happen to youĀ
Here's the thing, I am not being disrespectful. The girl attacked Farah for using curly hair. I don't agree with that. We're not offending anyone and I am as far from racist as I could be! I have a different point of view, since I collect dolls irl and for me the game is that- a virtual doll. I collect dolls from all different cultures and parts of the world and for me admiring all skin tones and hair styles is not a racism. If they're available in the game , it's because it's for all of us to enjoy them. It's the same with real life dolls! A white girl could and should play with dolls from all races and vice versa. This is no different to me. That's how we learn and expand our horizons. No need to get offended, considering this is a Kim Kardashian game ,and Kim herself was accused of cultural appropriation several times. No one is trying to hurt anyone's feelings. We're here to admire and enjoy diversity! Not to close our minds and be nasty for no reason!Ā
So are you just going to ignore the contexts of your original post, and only respond to this one? And then close this one out by saying people come of nasty for no reason, when that was the exact way you possibly came off to others in your first original response?Ā
Whenever the topic of poc hair comes up, I never want to interject just because itās not my place. After reading over the forum posts today, I do feel like someone needs to bring light on what @FarahxKKH is trying to get across. In posting the looks, in no way did she say that these were looks that she was submitting. These looks are for inspiration for dolls of all enthenicties. Her goal was to be all-inclusive so that a person of either race had inspiration to drawl from.Ā
Ooh y'all I got bingo!!!! And the SYS didn't even start yet.
B: I'm not racist! Its a doll! I love all cultures, I'm just expressing it! I: *You people* get offended over everything! Relax!!! I'm not Rayyyyyyycisssssttttttttt
N: You are literally targeting me for no reason!!!!Ā G: *centers self in discussion and discounting others lived experiences* O: YOU GUYS are the ones with closed minds, how can we celebrate diversity if we can't change our skin colour and features???Ā
If its not appropriate if in real life then it should not be appropriate in a game. A lot of people use blackness as an accessory when it shouldnāt be that way. Yes the game allows you to be who you want when it comes to to skin tone and hair styles but does that mean you should be able to use them. I donāt think so. Iām black so I use a doll that looks like me for the most part. The hairstyles and outfits may differ but skin tone will stay the same. Being real to myself is what I like to regardless if itās a game or not. At the end of the day people are going to agree or disagree just wanted to state my opinion. I started to come on this forum to see beautiful dolls as well as to talk to people who are into this game like I am. Hope I can continue to š
New to the forum. Long time reader, first time poster. I see this conversation come up pretty much every month and I just wanted to remind everyone that your feelings are the responsibility of you, and you alone. If you don't enjoy what someone posts, don't look at it/unfollow them. You don't need to announce it or try to control what they post or do... just.. leave...
What??? We can use whatever hair, skin tone and face features we want! We can change, play with it and it's our own choice! Why are you people getting offended by LITERALLY EVERYTHING???Ā P.S. Great job with the inspo Farah!!!Ā
white people never learn do they... they think they're above everything and other cultures are just glorified closets that they can pick and choose what they want from without with any regard for what those things actually mean or represent for the people they were meant for
I understand the frustration of white people using poc hair and darker skin tones when they think it fits the theme better and I 100% agree that thatās not ok. But please donāt say that all white people are the same because thatās everything but true. There also are a lot of white people who totally understand the pain and frustration some black people are going through because of things like this. It really makes me sad if thatās the way black people think of white people. And again, I totally understand that some things in this game are everything but ok and I totally agree that white people/dolls shouldnāt use anything thatās only meant for black dolls.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you didn't have any malicious intent behind the bolded statement but I want to let you know why it's problematic.Ā
Listen everyone speaks on generalities and if it doesn't apply to YOU (individually) then let it fly. Saying "please don't say all white people are the same" is redundant because that courtesy is never extended to BIPOC.Ā
You have to take into account the serious, long lasting effects that colonialism and slavery have impacted billions of people. People like to act like that was all 1000s of years ago when it's not. We are still seeing the effects of that harm today! Think about segregation, the Japanese internment camps, the purposeful introduction of heroin and other drugs into Black communities, the way when any minority group starts being even the slightest advantageous their cities are burnt down or dismantled. The Chinese people that built America's railroads and were then killed because the white government didn't want to fulfil their promises of citizenship. The last presidency in America. I mean...look at what Meghan Markle is going through right now! And then in a microsense the near biweekly insistence of using Black features and hairstyles.Ā
@Idkkh Iām truly sorry if it came out a negative way because thatās everything that I didnāt want to happen. What I was trying to say is that I really hope that people also notice that there are many white people who are against the changing skin colour and poc hairstyles when it āfits the theme betterā. I understand really well that those bad things still happen and I feel awful about that. I think I might have understood the āwhite people never learnā wrong and Iām sorry if that happened. I donāt want anyone to think that all white people are the same because I just donāt think thatās true.
@FarahxKKH rockstar isnt an excuse to use poc hair styles lets not do that.
What??? We can use whatever hair, skin tone and face features we want! We can change, play with it and it's our own choice! Why are you people getting offended by LITERALLY EVERYTHING???Ā P.S. Great job with the inspo Farah!!!Ā
Babe if u wanna address black people do it but don't try and call me you people. The amount of white people (who so discriminatory) whom I've unfortunately had an interaction always like to address me as you people. It's embarrassing at this pointĀ
The actual post is on the Facebook platform.Ā Apparently many are in the group, so why comes to rant in this thread?. So.Ā Good luck to you all.Ā and that our scores are decent. @FarrackOnly 35 minutes to go.Ā So I look forward to your 45+ post as always. š
@FarahxKKH rockstar isnt an excuse to use poc hair styles lets not do that.
I'm sure this is American thing but braids originate from ancient Egypt and Farah is literally Egyptian. It's also a traditional practice in South Asia where Hindu sadhus have had dreadlocks for thousands of years till date and even till a decade ago, women would not be allowed to leave their homes without braided hair. You all should probably get some history lessons or learn about other culturesĀ
I'm pretty sure that POC includes Egyptian tho. I mean y'all love to scream we should get educated but will gloss over everything we try to educate you for. And no this isn't an only American thing. Black person here who was bullied bc of her braids both in Germany and Italy
@FarahxKKH rockstar isnt an excuse to use poc hair styles lets not do that.
I'm sure this is American thing but braids originate from ancient Egypt and Farah is literally Egyptian. It's also a traditional practice in South Asia where Hindu sadhus have had dreadlocks for thousands of years till date and even till a decade ago, women would not be allowed to leave their homes without braided hair. You all should probably get some history lessons or learn about other culturesĀ
I would also like to add that I never use POC hair on my doll out of respect for Black dolls. But don't go losing it. Humanity is fascinating because we have so much in common despite so many differences. There are many cultures which use braids and have been using it for centuries, not only Black people. Even though it's part of my culture, I don't use it because I'm now apparently not allowed to claim it as part of my culture because someone else has and they refuse to learn what my culture is but I should learn theirs and sympathize.
POC literally is anything that isn't white. I highly doubt that if u don't specify where you are from, people will automatically know where you're from and nobody is saying that you can't claim it as yours but really can we stop the lowkey shade/self victimizing every single f time that a black person tells you stop stereotyping them to a specific SYS?
I come here for inspo and people who weren't even in the conversation bring in their race and act as if we were attacking them personally. Like sh*t some of y'all really forgot that POC means literally anything that isn't white and y'all be bringing the 'in my country this and that and them' ( and yes I'm talking about specific posts that brought in their 2 cents when talking about black and white and African culture in general)like comparing 2 countries is like comparing day and night sometimes. It's really ridiculous the fact that some of you wanna invalidate others feelings and be like 'you're the one who's choosing to be offendedā¤ and if u don't like it goā¤' like b*tch tell that to a black person irl and let's see if u don't get smackedš. Like goils it's embarrassing how y'all be telling a black person how to feel someone be treating them as an accessory and using the fact that you're also a POC to invalidate them like ok babe. You do you
Nah I thought this sh*t was gonna start in a few weeks when there's gonnaĀ be a POC hairstyle in a SYS but y'all be clowning over here even before that and acting as if stopping the gatekeeping (that literally f started bc black people wanted to protect what's theirs and what they have shared w other races) is gonna stop racism as if racism started bc of thatš y'all be wanting that reward so bad w/o putting in the effort of listening to LISTENš
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Ā āHistoryĀ tells usĀ cornrows originatedĀ in Africa. ... āCornrowsĀ on women date back to at least 3000 B.C. and as far back as the nineteenth century for men, particularly in Ethiopia. Warriors and kings were identified by their braided hairstylesāĀ Ā
āĀ Box braidsĀ can be dated as far back as 3500 B.C. in South Africa. TheĀ box braidsĀ all know and love today aren't that different from the EembuviĀ braidsĀ of Namibia or the chin-length bobĀ braidsĀ of the women of the Nile Valley from over 3,000 years ago.ā
āTheĀ originĀ ofĀ braidsĀ can be traced back 5000 years inĀ AfricanĀ culture to 3500 BCāthey were very popular among women.āĀ BraidsĀ are not just a style; this craft is a form of art. āBraidingstarted in Africa with the Himba people of Namibia,ā says Alysa Pace of Bomane Salon. ...Ā BraidingĀ was and is a social art.āĀ
āCornrowsĀ were used to transfer and create maps with the intention to leave the home of the captors. Such a method for escaping was easy to hide from theĀ slaveĀ masters. The act of using hair as a tool for rebellion was also spread to other parts of South America that had AfricanĀ slaveĀ populations.ā
āManyĀ African women braided rice or seeds into their hair before journeying the Middle Passage, on their way to enslavement or braided it into their childrenās hair before separation, so that they could eat.ā
Sources:Ā https://www.google.com/amp/s/face2faceafrica.com/article/how-cornrows-were-used-as-an-escape-map-from-slavery-across-south-america/amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/blackdoctor.org/history-of-african-hair-braiding/%3famp
https://www.byrdie.com/history-of-braids
YOU should seek history & cultural lessons, respectfully. A quick google search would do you good Ā
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B: I'm not racist! Its a doll! I love all cultures, I'm just expressing it!
I: *You people* get offended over everything! Relax!!! I'm not Rayyyyyyycisssssttttttttt
G: *centers self in discussion and discounting others lived experiences*
O: YOU GUYS are the ones with closed minds, how can we celebrate diversity if we can't change our skin colour and features???Ā
Peace and love to all xx
Listen everyone speaks on generalities and if it doesn't apply to YOU (individually) then let it fly. Saying "please don't say all white people are the same" is redundant because that courtesy is never extended to BIPOC.Ā
You have to take into account the serious, long lasting effects that colonialism and slavery have impacted billions of people. People like to act like that was all 1000s of years ago when it's not. We are still seeing the effects of that harm today! Think about segregation, the Japanese internment camps, the purposeful introduction of heroin and other drugs into Black communities, the way when any minority group starts being even the slightest advantageous their cities are burnt down or dismantled. The Chinese people that built America's railroads and were then killed because the white government didn't want to fulfil their promises of citizenship. The last presidency in America. I mean...look at what Meghan Markle is going through right now! And then in a microsense the near biweekly insistence of using Black features and hairstyles.Ā
So.Ā Good luck to you all.Ā and that our scores are decent.
@FarrackOnly 35 minutes to go.Ā So I look forward to your 45+ post as always. š