What Is The Ideal Rating Advantage Needed To Get A Fair Shot in HoF WoH? I Promise No More Whining..

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  • 2003cobra2003cobra 1,145 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Skills are the key. It’s been said a million times on here
  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte 343 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    Posting this here for those working their way up the WOH ladder.  Thought some might find it useful to see how the roster compares to completion:


    I added 209 Total HIT Points in last two weeks to my 1-7 Hitters (Forgot to track 8-10 last week)

    In that time I've also added about 17 percentage points to the skills as well.


    Most notable increase is in my #1 Hitter

    10/28 - Suarez POTM (RHH) - 300 HIT w/ 8% ROB and 4% vs LHP


    11/11 - Boog Powell (LHH) - 341 HIT w/ 12% vs RHP and Blowout 12%


    Biggest remaining hole is at my 3rd spot.  Where I only saw a 8 point increase in HIT, and no skill improvement.

  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte 343 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    EDIT to include My Legend




  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    So, after toying around with this, there is an answer to win at Silver and above, but the reality is, even if you have the proper advantage needed, the RNG will frick you. I don't care what level you are. If the game wants you to lose, you will lose.

    A triple advantage should never warrant a curve out, but I've been getting those too.


    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    And my theory above is correct. Just experienced it. Same matchup, got RNGed twice, but cleared the third time.

    All about what the RNG wants even if you have the best matchup imaginable.

    So, best options are:

    Get matchup favorability to at least 1.25 or 1.33

    THEN...be patient for the RNG to be kind to you

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte 343 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    And my theory above is correct. Just experienced it. Same matchup, got RNGed twice, but cleared the third time.

    All about what the RNG wants even if you have the best matchup imaginable.

    So, best options are:

    Get matchup favorability to at least 1.25 or 1.33

    THEN...be patient for the RNG to be kind to you

    This is among the most annoying aspects of this game.  A 408 hit rating vs a 179 pitcher...and you get 9 straight unhittable pitches
  • bigvivecbigvivec 1,943 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    So, after toying around with this, there is an answer to win at Silver and above, but the reality is, even if you have the proper advantage needed, the RNG will frick you. I don't care what level you are. If the game wants you to lose, you will lose.

    A triple advantage should never warrant a curve out, but I've been getting those too.



    Honestly, how would you know.   I get that you're frustrated, but settle down a little and just speak on your own experiences.   You need a much stronger and deeper team to do better than you are, but those teams exist.
    AKA  Brokejawipeout


    ..............DISAGREE!!!!!!!   😂 
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • duckk123duckk123 296 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    No. Its about whether glu flips the switch to impossible or easy.
  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte 343 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Today made me a 100% believer in “the switch.”  I was crushing through All-Star tower.  Knocked it out three times with little issue.

    shut game off for a couple hours and when I came back....I couldn’t even get through 5.8.  Time after time after time.

    shut off for another couple hours...came back and flew through it two more times in less than an hour.  Landed Ernie Banks in the last time through.  First time I’ve landed the Legend out of the All-Star tower box
  • MoenPDCMoenPDC 458 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    Your still silver 🤦🏼‍♂️
  • Wicked0WildcatsWicked0Wildcats 810 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    edited November 12

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    But your sample size is all at Silver.  That's what he's trying to say.  It doesn't matter if it's thousands of rounds,  if it's all at Silver, how can you speak for the experience of higher levels and say "I don't care what level you are" when you haven't experienced those levels?  Yes, RNG matters but I don't think you can possibly understand the WOH experience at higher levels having only played Silver and Bronze WOH.

    Like most Diamond players I don't need to be patient and wait for the RNG as I'll most likely clear 6-10 either on the initial try or on the video boost as I did several times today without using restarts with most likely lower max players than you have.  

    People have been beating a dead horse on this for a month telling you that RNG will screw you more often than not at Silver, and if you're still at Silver after a few thousand more the results will be similar. 
  • redlegs2018uredlegs2018u 872 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    edited November 12

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    But your sample size is all at Silver.  That's what he's trying to say.  It doesn't matter if it's thousands of rounds,  if it's all at Silver, how can you speak for the experience of higher levels and say "I don't care what level you are" when you haven't experienced those levels?  Yes, RNG matters but I don't think you can possibly understand the WOH experience at higher levels having only played Silver and Bronze WOH.

    Like most Diamond players I don't need to be patient and wait for the RNG as I'll most likely clear 6-10 either on the initial try or on the video boost as I did several times today without using restarts with most likely lower max players than you have.  

    People have been beating a dead horse on this for a month telling you that RNG will screw you more often than not at Silver, and if you're still at Silver after a few thousand more the results will be similar. 
    Pretty much what he said, didn’t play today because I’m burnt out but have finished HoF/Wednesday Royale with a 430/460 with skills at 12/14, 13/13.  Over the last two Wednesday versions have won with a 460 max at a roughly 85% clip.  I went through many a WoH in ‘18 with a gold team, and since early June with a diamond team this season when it was apparent they are still using level 1 pitchers this late in the season.  It’s just plain math, a 552 with video boost Luis Arraez (base 420 max even vs Thigpen still has a bigger gap than a 500 legend in silver with the same matchup).  
  • bigvivecbigvivec 1,943 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    How would I know? I've now played what is likely thousands of "rounds" and finished hundreds of levels of this. I feel very comfortable with my sample size.

    I did exactly what the board stated, and I have cleared WoH HoF three weeks in a row now. I appreciate the help, everyone!

    PS - Today is a great example: Right now, I'm being curved out in HOF on 6.2 over and over and over. Morton is impossible right now.  Using the same guy I've cleared him with for weeks.

    It is all about the RNG once you get the favorability.

    But your sample size is all at Silver.  That's what he's trying to say.  It doesn't matter if it's thousands of rounds,  if it's all at Silver, how can you speak for the experience of higher levels and say "I don't care what level you are" when you haven't experienced those levels?  Yes, RNG matters but I don't think you can possibly understand the WOH experience at higher levels having only played Silver and Bronze WOH.

    Like most Diamond players I don't need to be patient and wait for the RNG as I'll most likely clear 6-10 either on the initial try or on the video boost as I did several times today without using restarts with most likely lower max players than you have.  

    People have been beating a dead horse on this for a month telling you that RNG will screw you more often than not at Silver, and if you're still at Silver after a few thousand more the results will be similar. 
    This is what I was trying to say but you said it better.  ;)


    At higher levels, WOH discussions are in terms of how much time it takes to do a cycle rather than if you can.  
    AKA  Brokejawipeout


    ..............DISAGREE!!!!!!!   😂 
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I know many of you are speaking from a gold or diamond perspective. I understand and also understand your matchups at that level improve. Thus the reason why, while still at silver, I made extra investments in skills on my main guys while I build resources. My closers are sitting at skills with 20/19 each.

    I cleared HoF yesterday four times and was able to cap Banks at Silver, and get some extra LxP. Yesterday was a fun day. Outside of that hour and a half span where just beating 6.2 and 6.7 was a chore, the game was a blast.

    My point was, there are certain times of the game that things are clearly harder. There are periods where simple matchups won't win for whatever reason. My "I don't care what level you are" was obviously too general, but I've read others here in gold or above state they see the same things in terms of periods where the game is nearly impossible, or they get curved out on matchups they frequently use.

    I also get the fact that you can't win it every time. I'm cool with that too.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • CanadaCubsCanadaCubs 1,489 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Is there going to be a day where you go gold?  
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    I'm almost to my resource goal. Been doing it without spending $$$, thus the slow progress. Will use $$ for a field pass when the day is here.

    I've also been stashing Prime Lefties as well with WoH skills when I get them, so my gold lineup would have pretty much a switch hitter or lefty at every spot. LOL. I'm sticking to my plan, and at the same time drawing up an outline for 2020.

    Either way, the help here has been much appreciated! There is a LOT to this game and I feel I finally have a strong grasp of it.


    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • TheFullMonteTheFullMonte 343 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Can you share the resource goals and where you’re at?  I’m actually pretty curious to see this
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    I have enough LxP to cap two at gold (Over 150K).

    I need more PxP and EVO, based on the charts.

    I hit a bump a few weeks ago landing Eddie Matthews. I capped him and put his skills to 19/18. It set my plan back a couple of weeks, but Matthews has been a HoF killer for me.  He and Kruk are smooth on 6.9 and 6.10 when I get there.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • DomerHomerDomerHomer 41 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Meant in the most helpful and sincere way possible......just take the plunge. Bring minimum four bats. Others have discussed their experiences all over the forum. It’s better than you imagine and you’ll soon wish you would have taken the plunge weeks ago.

    It will also show you interim ways to strategize woh (e.g. reusing the same lefty bat for three rounds, but finding the right one on your roster that costs 50 gold to reuse instead of 100.....I did this with Austin Meadows for the entire month of June. It was a sad day when I finally traded him in).

    No one is ever finished chasing resources (well maybe expect for @DFBB)
  • criffycriffy 342 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    @DomerHomer we've tried to explain to him for months now if his goal was to cycle like some of we do. i've just learned to move on from his posts, no offense @drsmartassphd

    i moved on from silver a long time ago (maybe in May?) because it was hard to cycle classic at silver and i read that it was way easier at gold. this was true then and still true today. we've all done it and know the difference - there's no way i would be cycling HOF 10-14x every monday to gather the resources to get my team to where it is without taking the plunge. we've continually banged the drum to move up, but everyone has their own way of playing.

    let this thread die folks, there's no new information coming out here...
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    Criffy, in my defense, I had let it die. LOL. I've been winning WoH HoF for several weeks....

    I saw someone comment and I just couldn't help myself.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • retirepujolsretirepujols 2,675 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    I'll toss out a different argument- if you can beat Hof 2 or 3 times a week in silver, you don't really need to move up. Silver allows you to spend less time in game as less resources are needed (and tourneys/bonus games are NOT tailor made for silver teams). If you can cycle woh a few times and beat CVC throughout the week/weekend- that's pretty cool 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Just me in my world of enemies.
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Well, I pulled Stan the Man yesterday. I'm capping him for HoF Monday. I have a legend at every spot now. I don't play tourneys at all. Yes, I destroy CvC with this team too.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • ihuffgluihuffglu 132 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    Well, I pulled Stan the Man yesterday. I'm capping him for HoF Monday.
    I can't wait to hear how it goes for you Monday. GL
  • CanadaCubsCanadaCubs 1,489 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    ihuffglu said:
    Well, I pulled Stan the Man yesterday. I'm capping him for HoF Monday.
    I can't wait to hear how it goes for you Monday. GL
    @ihuffglu, I’m looking forward to how your Monday woh goes...you know, with that sweet Stan Musial you acquired through cvc last night. 
  • ihuffgluihuffglu 132 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    @ihuffglu, I’m looking forward to how your Monday woh goes...you know, with that sweet Stan Musial you acquired through cvc last night. 
    I'll keep you posted bud 👍👍. Also if it makes you feel better I didn't pull him from the cvc boxes I got from beating you last night lol
  • CanadaCubsCanadaCubs 1,489 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    It somewhat makes me less salty. 
  • drsmartassphddrsmartassphd 606 PostsRegistered Users, Member

    Well, GLU has just boxed me in a corner. I saw Cecil Cooper in the boxes. I had 6K in gold. Frick it, I'll go for it. If I can land him, I have a solid backend for WoH. First pull, I got Trammel. Darn. Ok, still have 6K in gold. Next pull, I got Freeman. LOL. Ok. Fine. Don't have 6K in gold, but I will try. Five pulls later, I got Cecil Cooper.

    With that, I will level these guys up and get their skills to 15+ each. I will report on my findings Monday.

    From this point forward, this won't be me whining, just more me posting what life is like with a Silver team with a 490+ Legend in every position. Also, my three subs are now 490 Lefties also.

    This is the PERFECT WoH team. I've only hunted lefties or switch hitters with WoH skills.

    My team is Gold. Don't know if anyone is aware of this.....

  • mwilson829mwilson829 364 PostsRegistered Users, Member
    If it were the perfect WOH team, it wouldn't be silver.  Just my opinion.
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