I would also like to point out that not everyone who doesn't buy tickets does it for financial reasons. I don't spend money on my game to avoid losing my 20 daily k-stars. I have money to spend but I refuse to give Glu any of it until they fix this issue.
I also decide to use my money differently than funding an app that is not fair to it's customers in many ways, one of them is taking away videos worth of 420 k-stars monthly after a purchase, so you can buy them instead.
I had an average score of 47 points and was in the lead the whole event, but in the end a ticket buyer appeared and surpassed me. I needed to redeem 3 additional tickets to let justice prevail again. How dare she? Off with her head! Or off with my head because I used tickets aswell? OFF WITH ALL OUR HEADS!
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Also just wanted to add my two cents about last minute ticket buyers: it might be annoying to feel like youāre ahead the whole event and then some tasteless pay2win doll slaps some money on the table to come up first, but tbh itās the most courteous thing they could do if they were gonna buy tickets anyway? Not to mention it avoids the whole ticket arms race to 1000+ points. A few people on the forum have mentioned being able to collect their #1 prizes, and then a tbās votes trickle in after and so theyāre both able to get the prizes. Seems like a win-win to me š¤·š»āāļø
@nubcake I think itās way more courteous if they buy upfront! Then at least I know theyāre a ticket buyer and I donāt waste my whole weekend stressed about keeping my number one spot and constantly checking to see if someone surpassed me with tickets.Ā
@jhabs thatās valid too, though if more than one person could get the #1 prize that still seems ideal!Ā
Sometimes I think people in my groups might even mistake me for a ticket buyer because I purposely play my tickets late ā so like, Iāll submit one ticket at the beginning of the event, and then wait 6-8 hours before submitting the next one, and my final 2 looks are usually submitted close to the end. In my head this makes me look like less of a threat so other people donāt buy tickets but idk if my mind games are working š¤£
As Iāve said... This is a money grab game and Glu WONT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE SYS or if they do... They will add million other options to squeeze the money out of players. So no matter how much we cry on the forum, things will not change or if they will they will change for the worst.Ā
This game used used to be fun in the past and now itās all about who owns the most exclusive clothing. Sys is not designed for everyone to win... š Glu doesnāt care who has money to spend and who doesnāt. You donāt go to the store and ask the cashier to give you free bread because you donāt have any cash... So we think that Glu will listen to us?! The answer is a simple NO. We can complain all we want...Ā This is a perfect method for them to earn lots of cash and they will not do anything.Ā
The only thing that would be nice is if we could stop shaming people who has the money to spend on this game. As everyone else said, the feature is there to use and abuse so of course people are going to use it and thereās nothing we can do about it. ā¹ļø Feel free to disagree, but letās be real... Here. šĀ
Sorry I am late party, and I didnāt hit disagree on your post however I whole-heartedly disagree with the statement that Glu will not make changes. There have been MANY examples of Glu responding to player feedback and I am so glad to see so many people expressing their opinions on the game! Ā Keep it up! Ā Glu tends not to respond to a few complaints, however when so many people are here to say they are upset with the game then Glu needs to take notice. Ā Please keep speaking out, your opinion DOES matter.Ā
@SugarK Is dead on, they have and do listen to player feedback/suggestions. They have already tweaked SYS in the past because of us. They lowered the total points required for earnables, they put the k-stars back as prizes in TS, they shortened the event, and they got rid of energy as earnable prizes. These are all small victories of course, and we would love to see a change in the prize structure/allocation to make it so people who genuinely EARN the win can get prizes too.
Thanks for the concrete examples @AliBryant. Glu doesnāt always respond in the ways we suggest, but the fact that they respond at all is a solid indication that voicing our opinions can make a difference. Ā Sometimes it takes time. Obviously the events are planned weeks in advance but if we continue providing feedback they can incorporate these suggestions into future events. Ā
Wow, itās been busy in here, while I was away! Iāll voice my opinion, without offending anyone - I agree there must be a cap on ticket buying. And I believe Glu listens to us and will take care of it. of course, tickets are money, so the tickets will be there. I have bought ticket packs twice since I started playing the game, I donāt regret it. Everything is for people. But Iād never abuse it to get to first place if I saw the person on the top is playing fair and square.Ā So, @GluAdmin please have a look at the thread and see how angry the players are. Please, pretty please!
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Christ, I'm exhausted just reading the last 5 pages of this thread...
Many people have rightly pointed out that Glu needs to sit up, take notice and respond to this feedback about the TS system. Personally I don't expect them to remove the ability to purchase extra tickets. After all, they're a business and they need to make money. Which benefits us in the long run cause it keeps the game going.
But what is clear is that the system could be refined so they can still make money, but also make the system fairer.Ā
If people want to spend money on tickets, then fair play to them. It is their money and up to them entirely how they want to spend it. Equally people who make a choice not to spend money, for whatever reason, should not be left feeling "pushed out" of the game. The playing field needs to be levelled somehow.Ā
Its clear this is a issue that divides players massively. And that shows every week when the SYS descends into the same argument. And emotions run high and sometimes I have seen comments spill over into the wrong side of respectful. Whilst we all have a responsibility for what we write online and how we speak to each other, Glu needs to recognise they have to do something on this issue. Who knows who is behind the receiving end of one of those comments and the impact it could have on them. Glu have a social responsibility to their customers this much surely?
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Honestly I feel like I'm being bullied here, it's me VS everyone else. I love this game but I won't let the community negativity bring me down, the more I read the more depressing I get.Ā
Ā @KKH_Mermaid These people that complaints about tickets buyer for being a hacker annoyed me soooo much, just because they spend money on tickets you gonna assume them for being a hacker? Go get common sense. 1 extra ticket gives youĀ Ā 45 points more or less. And yea if you wan't to win go buy tickets packs and stop complaining because its getting annoying.Ā
@TyrandaNot trying to add to the drama on this thread,Ā butĀ I donāt think you can claim people are bullying you. One could argue that anyone who has ever complained about losing to a ticket buyer felt bullied when you called their complaints āannoyingā and told them to get ācommon senseā.Ā
Girl I'm sorry but say it like it is. You saw someone else jump at someone for complaining about ticket buyers and decided to join the fun and it blew up in your face. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.Ā
On top of that, I have yet to hear an apology from you to anyone, so I don't understand why you're pulling the victim card when you started this.
I will say I agree with @EllaCharlotte, ticketbuying will likely not go away. I think this weekend, a LOT of people spent money to get the hair. This earnable prize was quite coveted. Iām sure Glu is more encouraged than ever after seeing how many tickets were bought. I will say this and I hope this is as respectful as possible, but thereās no good way to buy tickets. Whether youāre buying tickets to get the top prize or make up on a look, or snipe it from a ticketbuyer, you are still contributing to Gluās financial justification for this scheme. If you disagree with ticketbuying, I would encourage you to not participate for any reason. On the other hand, I do thank the people giving money to this game because that keeps this game going for most of us. I wish you werenāt taking my final prizes, but I love this game and I donāt want it to die.Ā
Honestly I feel like I'm being bullied here, it's me VS everyone else. I love this game but I won't let the community negativity bring me down, the more I read the more depressing I get.Ā
Ā You just upset a lot of people on this forum, and honestly nobody has intentions to depress you or bully you. But a lot of us forum members donāt like the unfairness of the sys every week losing to Ticket buyers scoring over 900 + points is too much. Plus the fact there are Last min dolls jumping in to knock a over dolls place is messed up. AND The most annoying basic clothing dolls makes it more infuriating when theirs many gorgeous dolls who actually put great outfits together. Hope you feel better honestly, depression isnāt a good thing Iāve been through it. But just be aware what you say because it does affect the forum. This is an unfair issue and you should see it too, not call us annoying for ranting about it.Ā
I havenāt been here for a long time but ever since I started on the forum, I see the same complaints over and over about SYS. Some things have changed, yes, but it doesnāt solve any of the main issues. I am not being original here, these are ideas I have seen mentioned in this thread or around on the forum, but this are my thoughts and how I would put things together to improve the event:
Glu will never get rid of the tickets or put a cap on them, itās how they make money. And overall theyāre not a bad idea: it might have come in handy for me this SYS since I stupidly missed a ticket and really wanted the earnable dress. Luckily, I didnāt need it this time but Iād like to have that option in the future. It also seems like a lot of people are struggling with the new themes and cannot reach their usual scores and all the earnables just with their free tickets. So I donāt think getting rid of the tickets is the right thing to ask for. Theyāre here to stay and they have their use.
BUT I think SYS tickets should only apply to the earnable track, not to Trendsetters. Paying to reach that last item you wanted, sure: it doesnāt harm any other players and youāre helping Gluās finances. Paying to get in front of somebody who had more votes than you and taking the prize away from them: not fair. Thereās a meltdown every week because people feel like theyāve been robbed after working all weekend long for nothing! Trendsetters should be limited to your first 14 submissions and thatās it. If you got your 14th ticket by buying it because you missed one, ok, fine, it counts. As long as everyone is being judged on the same amount of submissions. And Iām saying your first 14 looks because Iāve seen people say to keep your best 14. But if you submit lots of extra looks you get more chances of having a higher score amidst all of them, so this would still give an advantage to ticket buyers.
Alternatively, as Iāve seen mentioned a few times too, if all submissions count, it should be an average of all the looks you submitted. This way, ticket buyers who just submit a bunch of basic looks would be penalized because their average would drop.
Now. I understand that sometimes you reaaaaaaally want that top prize and you donāt want it to slip away because voters are impossible to please and they gave you bad scores on looks you were so confident about. If you really want the prizes, then you should be able to get them. By paying for them. But after Trendsetters is over! The person getting 1st place on Trendsetters should win on their own styling merits. Ranking would still work the same, you get your free items depending on where you placed. And if you want more, then you can buy the missing outfit parts during the 24 hours when the SYS window is still active after the event. The closer you are to the top ranks, the cheaper the price and then it increases gradually the lower you are. Buy them with K-stars or another currency of Gluās choice, anyway people are already paying to get them, so it wouldnāt change anything financially for Glu. Actually, maybe even more people would buy since it would now be more within their reach (compared to when you have a crazy ticket buyer in your group and you just give up on the competition because itās impossible to win).
Glu would have even more people buying tickets if buying didnāt remove the free k-stars videosā¦ You want to make money from the SYS tickets? Let everyone keep their 20 daily videos and youāll get more customers. And while youāre at it, do the same for all of the other in-game purchases! How many people refrain from buying stuff because they know they will lose their free k-stars??
The scores in the 2000-3000s that some are seeing are just plain ridiculous! Glu should have a trigger in their system that warns them after a certain amount of tickets have been used and it starts getting suspicious. Sure, not all of these are from hackers and there are legitimate players getting caught in bidding wars, but if these high numbers were automatically investigated, Iām sure it would bring more results than just waiting for regular players to report suspicious accounts. The people who truly paid for their tickets wouldnāt be bothered because Glu can see the transactions but they would come across the irregular accounts more often.
I havenāt had this issue in my groups thankfully, but please separate male and female dolls. Cancelling the top prize for all females because a male doll got 1st place makes no sense at all!
So thatās itā¦ my two cents putting together different suggestions I saw in a way I think would work for everyone: non-paying customers still get rewards, paying customers still get extra if they want too without taking it away from someone, and Glu still gets money through tickets and other currencies. Sorry for the novel! And the amount of mistakes that probably slipped in thereā¦! English is not my first language and itās way too late for me to re-read all that (3:30am, I spent more than an hour typing all that, ugh!)!
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@Tyranda while i openly disagreed with you (largely because i'm sure you were being purposely insensitive to people who can't and won't buy tickets) I do also think it's a little unfortunate you took all the heat when KKH_Mermaid started it. Then again, if she started it you definitely exacerbated it.
Still when you consider KKH_Mermaid and that KimsBestie and CryingKim defended people buying tickets, i think its unfair to them to say it was you V everyone else. Especially considering the general forum's feelings towards ticket buyers, I'd say they stuck their neck out for you.
I think there should be a maximum amount of tickets that you can use in one sys event. Like 3 tickets per sys. Then it would be more likely to get the last earnable item and it would make the sys fairer. Because I think that the best player should win, not the one who can pay for winning.Ā
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What about two people winning the final prizes - highest average and highest overall points?Ā
While I would rather this game just be straight up fair, I do feel bad for people just starting out... I canāt imagine how even I would feel if I ended up in a group with people who have almost all the clothes in the game š two winners is a fair solution!!
I came on here 2 weeks ago asking for a android player to please use a certain hairstyle in the sys event so I could get it and everyone wanted to ignore me I didnt come on here crying about it and yet I remark how I feel and people than wanna pay attention to what I say seems the only way I'm noticed is through negativity and I'm not a new player I've been playing since it was first released @Tyranda I'm sorry u felt that way I went to work and didnt get back on til now do not let anyones negativity bring you down just let that girl is allowed to voice how she feels so are we!!
We can raise our opinions without judging or shaming Dolls that buy their way to the 1st spot. ššø
I think it's kind of a shame that this statement is being downvoted. Unless they're hacking, players shouldn't be shamed for using tickets -- it's on the game developers for deciding that this is fair play. If you spent $20+ of your hard-earned money on a virtual hairstyle, by all means, it's yours!Ā Maybe I have low expectations because I've played other games that were WAY more pay2win, but I've already accepted that as a non-IAP player, winning is never guaranteed. I'm definitely in support of capping tickets and making things more fair but still, blame the system not the players.
This is absolutely ridiculous. If you happily deprive everyone of a fair game, then you shouldnāt expect to be welcomed with open arms on this forum. Pay to play is new for KKH so you shouldnāt be surprised when people donāt like it. š¤·š¼āāļøš¤·š¼āāļøš¤·š¼āāļø Also itās extremely elitist and callous to expect that everyone else can afford what you can afford. Iām starting to recall the great diamond debate and we all know how that ended š
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Also just wanted to add my two cents about last minute ticket buyers: it might be annoying to feel like youāre ahead the whole event and then some tasteless pay2win doll slaps some money on the table to come up first, but tbh itās the most courteous thing they could do if they were gonna buy tickets anyway? Not to mention it avoids the whole ticket arms race to 1000+ points. A few people on the forum have mentioned being able to collect their #1 prizes, and then a tbās votes trickle in after and so theyāre both able to get the prizes. Seems like a win-win to me š¤·š»āāļø
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Sometimes I think people in my groups might even mistake me for a ticket buyer because I purposely play my tickets late ā so like, Iāll submit one ticket at the beginning of the event, and then wait 6-8 hours before submitting the next one, and my final 2 looks are usually submitted close to the end. In my head this makes me look like less of a threat so other people donāt buy tickets but idk if my mind games are working š¤£
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Sorry I am late party, and I didnāt hit disagree on your post however I whole-heartedly disagree with the statement that Glu will not make changes. There have been MANY examples of Glu responding to player feedback and I am so glad to see so many people expressing their opinions on the game! Ā Keep it up! Ā Glu tends not to respond to a few complaints, however when so many people are here to say they are upset with the game then Glu needs to take notice. Ā Please keep speaking out, your opinion DOES matter.Ā
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Iāll voice my opinion, without offending anyone - I agree there must be a cap on ticket buying. And I believe Glu listens to us and will take care of it.
of course, tickets are money, so the tickets will be there. I have bought ticket packs twice since I started playing the game, I donāt regret it. Everything is for people. But Iād never abuse it to get to first place if I saw the person on the top is playing fair and square.Ā
So, @GluAdmin please have a look at the thread and see how angry the players are. Please, pretty please!
And you, Ladies and Gents, have a great rest of the day and donāt let it ruin your wonderful lives! ā¤ļø
Many people have rightly pointed out that Glu needs to sit up, take notice and respond to this feedback about the TS system. Personally I don't expect them to remove the ability to purchase extra tickets. After all, they're a business and they need to make money. Which benefits us in the long run cause it keeps the game going.
But what is clear is that the system could be refined so they can still make money, but also make the system fairer.Ā
If people want to spend money on tickets, then fair play to them. It is their money and up to them entirely how they want to spend it. Equally people who make a choice not to spend money, for whatever reason, should not be left feeling "pushed out" of the game. The playing field needs to be levelled somehow.Ā
Its clear this is a issue that divides players massively. And that shows every week when the SYS descends into the same argument. And emotions run high and sometimes I have seen comments spill over into the wrong side of respectful. Whilst we all have a responsibility for what we write online and how we speak to each other, Glu needs to recognise they have to do something on this issue. Who knows who is behind the receiving end of one of those comments and the impact it could have on them. Glu have a social responsibility to their customers this much surely?
Sorry, this post has turned out much longer than I intended so if you have made it this far then thank you for reading!!
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Don't dish it out if you can't take it.Ā
On top of that, I have yet to hear an apology from you to anyone, so I don't understand why you're pulling the victim card when you started this.
I will say this and I hope this is as respectful as possible, but thereās no good way to buy tickets. Whether youāre buying tickets to get the top prize or make up on a look, or snipe it from a ticketbuyer, you are still contributing to Gluās financial justification for this scheme. If you disagree with ticketbuying, I would encourage you to not participate for any reason.
On the other hand, I do thank the people giving money to this game because that keeps this game going for most of us. I wish you werenāt taking my final prizes, but I love this game and I donāt want it to die.Ā
Ticket buyers scoring over 900 + points is too much. Plus the fact there are Last min dolls jumping in to knock a over dolls place is messed up. AND The most annoying basic clothing dolls makes it more infuriating when theirs many gorgeous dolls who actually put great outfits together. Hope you feel better honestly, depression isnāt a good thing Iāve been through it. But just be aware what you say because it does affect the forum. This is an unfair issue and you should see it too, not call us annoying for ranting about it.Ā
I havenāt been here for a long time but ever since I started on the forum, I see the same complaints over and over about SYS. Some things have changed, yes, but it doesnāt solve any of the main issues. I am not being original here, these are ideas I have seen mentioned in this thread or around on the forum, but this are my thoughts and how I would put things together to improve the event:
So thatās itā¦ my two cents putting together different suggestions I saw in a way I think would work for everyone: non-paying customers still get rewards, paying customers still get extra if they want too without taking it away from someone, and Glu still gets money through tickets and other currencies. Sorry for the novel! And the amount of mistakes that probably slipped in thereā¦! English is not my first language and itās way too late for me to re-read all that (3:30am, I spent more than an hour typing all that, ugh!)!
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While I would rather this game just be straight up fair, I do feel bad for people just starting out... I canāt imagine how even I would feel if I ended up in a group with people who have almost all the clothes in the game š two winners is a fair solution!!
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Maybe I have low expectations because I've played other games that were WAY more pay2win, but I've already accepted that as a non-IAP player, winning is never guaranteed. I'm definitely in support of capping tickets and making things more fair but still, blame the system not the players.
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