They seriously need to use a version control system of some kind. Why is it that the changes being made are being reflected on us? They should use something like an LTS version. Meaning, since 12.4 is released, any changes they make further shouldn't be reflected until they release 12.5. This kind of messy programming is what results in a very sloppy user experience and it's difficult to trace back where the bugs are coming from. They should instead use version control, make some changes, and perform functional testing. Start with unit testing, where you test out, say, the SYS system. Then go with integration, where you check whether the changes you made to SYS affects any other aspects like k-stars, diamonds, tickets, or other parts of the game. Then check for usability, UX, etc. I mean I know you guys feel like you're on a roll to release new updates, but tbh, any update that's released without proper testing is just sloppy programming. Development is important but so is testing! In the meantime, you shouldn't let your users experience all the bugs! That's your job, most definitely not ours.
There's a saying in the programming world that goes something like this: "Assume that all users are dumb and useless. Assume that they don't know a thing about anything. They're here to use your service and move along." It's difficult, yes, but you shouldn't expect any user to share your burdens or responsibilities. Please perform proper testing, people! It's really not that hard. I'd rather a very delayed update (or none at all for months at a time) than get one riddled with messes.
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It took me an hour to submit my second ticket because the game was having problems opening. My tickets and diamonds disappeared at one point but came back after I force quit a couple of times. This isn’t a big deal but definitely annoying. SYS is still so glitchy as it is I can’t believe you are changing it before the glitches are even fixed.
The thing is this attitude is hurting their game and their customers' satisfaction. If they listen to their customers' feedback instead of trying to milk every penny they will definitely have much more stable game and more satisfied customers. It's just sad at this point. Not a single person wanted this new SYS system, but as usual EA does their best to make things difficult for it's customers. Their behaviour is somehow unethical, it almost feels like a scam but I can't explain it.
The thing is it's not illegal, so they're doing it. But law≠morals. It may not be illegal but it's unethical regardless. Even if a constitution can't recognize a scam, we humans can. And that alone is bad for their business and reputation. Every business out there worships their customers, but the attitude of this company honestly baffles me. I just can't believe there's a company out here, a big one at that, with such loose/nonexistent morals. Everyone wants money, but there's a difference between earning it and stealing it. Asking someone to pay money but not giving them what was promised? Can't relate 🙌
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This idea doesn’t excite me at all, but at this stage I don’t think we have enough information about it. There’s too much left unanswered and I just can’t imagine how this will be successfully executed. Hopefully in the coming days we will have responses to the questions asked here and some in game screenshots to help tell the story a bit better.
I do hope that our feedback is taken seriously, and if the overwhelming consensus is negative, the idea will be scrapped and we can revert to our regular events. I think an email survey would be good for this, as opposed to on the forum, so people can give their honest feedback without fear of judgement. While I appreciate the work that must have gone in to designing a new system like this, not every idea is a good one and deserves to remain part of the game purely because of the effort that went into it.
I, like others, would much rather have seen improvements to the current SYS, such as three stackable tickets, TS prizes based on point total, not competition (eg, 1st prize tier requires x number of points), and fixing the many glitches we’ve been experiencing as players. I want to enjoy this game, and when I wake up at 5am to submit a ticket, lose out on prizes to people with 3000+ points, and don’t know if I’ll be booted from the style level I worked so hard to achieve, I’m really not having fun.
I hope I am pleasantly surprised by the new SYS system, but I am keen to hear a lot more about the system ahead of it launching in game. I would love to hear from people who ARE excited about this to shine a new light on the topic 🤍
Yes! I like that idea of the tier prizes. I wasn’t here before the current tier system so idk how it used to work before thought 😅
I think I would genuinely like this feature a bit more if it was available to play with my Facebook friends, who already have a well filled wardrobe but this nonsense about using npcs who don't have anything and then having to build up their wardrobe up as well as mine? Yeah, no thank you. And then also if it wasn't sys related. Like if it wouldn't affect my tier placement... if it was just a different event or something.
I just don't understand what goes on at glu HQ, like honestly. I don't know how many times we have asked to get the game fixed. I don't know a single game dev. that behaves like glu does. I play a shit amount of other mobile games and alll of them actually listen to their players, it's really not that hard and kind of your job glu. Instead of this feature thing, why not give the male doll players some new items.... alongside of everything else we did actually ask for?
I think it’s clever. Everyone hates the current sys and have been begging glu to change it since it was introduced. Rather than do that, glu decided to introduce something that’s so crap, we’ll end up really grateful for the sys we currently have 😂😂
As for the prizes in SYS Duets, male and female dolls can win women's clothes from the earnable and leaderboard prizes. It will be possible to win clothes for the opposite gender from some gift boxes, but not all of them. The SYS diamond gift boxes will be available for female dolls only and contain women's clothes.
Sorry, but I will not be wasting my already ridiculously limited kstars on items that I literally can’t wear. I’m out ✌🏼
Lmaooo I can't believe this is why the glitches haven't been fixed, instead of making the game work properly they've come up with this weird random concept that no one asked for.
There are so many bad things about this. For me, the main problem is that WE NEED 3 SYS TICKETS TO STACK! We have been asking for it forever. It's very hard to log on every 6-12 hours, almost 24/7, to submit our free tickets. Many players set alarms in the middle of the night which is SO bad for our health. Now we will need to submit 2 looks per ticket? 4 looks every 12 hours? And that's just the minimum, quite a few ppl (myself included) have more than 1 game. Although I won't for long with this new idea.
Also not excited at the prospect of getting 0/5. Why is 0 even an option? Imagine making 2 whole looks, only to get 0 "hearts".
What a train wreck.
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... and then they wonder why people pir*te the game. This is so unnecessary rn. There's so much about this that is just so iffy and suspicious af and instead of fixing the glitches and adding things that would be life saving for players, they do this. I'm currently stuck in a really weird school situation which requires me to be at school every Tuesday from 8:40am until 3:15pm and you bet your greedy *ss that I'm not gonna be wasting my precious break time to submit any looks. This is utterly ridiculous and just sooo... idk, disappointing?
Can’t wait to see your reactions and first submissions when the Show Your Style: Duets - Power Couple event starts on November 11! We’re excited to hear your feedback and plan to alternate between standard SYS events and SYS: Duets. Your style level will stay consistent across events!
I really hate the sound of this 1st one, being called "Power Couple" suggests a romance theme & it leaves a lot of space for homophobia. I think lots of ppl will instinctively vote for a male / female couple over 2 men or 2 women, not on purpose but it will just draw peoples eye, the same way that fair skin or blonde hair does for example. And there are ppl who do think couples should be men & women, young kids playing who aren't exposed to same sex relationships, plus KKH is available in countries where same sex relationships and marriage is illegal. So I'm concerned about that, that we'll see a trend where same sex pairings score lower. I personally do not have the emotional energy for that, I see it enough IRL.
Also I don't like that different gender pairings will be pitted against each other. It would be better if its the same pairing being voted on eg male/male vs male/male, just like we never have female and male dolls against each other in SYS anymore.
Like lots of others players, I'm not interested in men's fashion & don't want to be winning clothes than can only be worn by a male doll. This will also be a huge disadvantage for free players who can't afford to buy a new kstar wardrobe for NPCs. Introducing this before the biggest sale of the year is the definition of reading the room wrong.
I am imagining the possibilities and none of them seem good.
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Players; we are so stressed with the constant sys events and glitches and tier system. Ticket buyers make it impossible to win without paying, kims calls never match with the prizes and it’s so hard to dress our dolls with limited unlocking and the best prizes in diamond boxes
I don’t love the SYS duets idea, but I didn’t care about it that much until reading that female dolls will get male clothing in some of the gift boxes.
I’M GAY and my doll is married to another female doll. I have absolutely zero desire or need for male clothing or male partners. This feels super heteronormative which TBH isn’t that surprising, but it is super disappointing.
Love the performativity of putting Kinsey in the game and actually giving non-binary and gender nonconforming people the hope of more expression in the game only to include something as ass-backwards as “mens clothes are for men and women’s clothes are for women” less than six months later. Stay classy, Glu!
A couple notes 🧐 sorry to be negative but I have reasons:
- I doubt that a heart rating will make things better. The issue is with the algorithm, so changing the way we vote (score out of 5 vs. the current 👍👎) is probably not going to help.
- the whole "male clothes vs female clothes", and judging straight couples against queer couples, is a big red flag for me as a genderqueer person. I'm worried about homophobia in the VB, and I don't like how transphobic this whole things sounds. I don't think I can participate in this for those reasons. Like, I would actually love to put "male" clothes on my "female" doll, just as much as I am excited about a vampire dress, but being reminded that I can't is not great for me.
- I don't want to collect "male" clothing if I can't use it for my doll-- I get that it's all about the clothing being programmed to specific body types (2 of the many), but... I never liked the clothes being separated to begin with.
- All the glitches in the VB this past month make sense now... but seriously, Glu needs to acknowledge what's been happening and compensate players with some of the things we've asked for. This new idea seems like more stress/work when SYS is stressful enough right now. Sorry about it 😔
Thanks for your work @KalindaKing and the team but I'm not super happy about this.
It's not cool how all of our concerns are not being addressed! The whole gender specific clothing thing has been bugging me since I read it. This is 2021, not 1921! This is going to be a mess and I don't even want to try the first one. Why not wait until after the holidays and sale to introduce this? Instead they do it right before Black Friday to try and make players spend stars and buy packages. I keep asking myself why I keep playing a game when they don't appreciate their players AT ALL.
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When this starts, we're introducing a new hearts system which is designed to improve your overall SYS experience. Once we have the first SYS Duets event, you can share what you think about it. As for the prizes in SYS Duets, male and female dolls can win women's clothes from the earnable and leaderboard prizes. It will be possible to win clothes for the opposite gender from some gift boxes, but not all of them. The SYS diamond gift boxes will be available for female dolls only and contain women's clothes.
No,no,no, no I don’t want ANY opposite gender clothes in ANY BOX. I have hard time getting “female” clothes, and now this! Ridiculous!
A year ago out of boredom I stated a side game because I had no way to spend all the cash accumulated in years playing the game. (We’ve been begging for so long to have more cash items, but that’s a whole different story)
I created a male doll, obviously we are connected on Facebook, he’s my current in-game husband, I bought him every single item available for cash, and some K star item too.
Now GLU is telling me that I can’t play with my own two dolls??!!?? Then for me there is really no reason to enter ANY duet SYS, NONE!
Thank you Glu for disappointing us again, every month you do that consistently and without fail! 🤬🤬🤬🤡🤡🤡
I wonder if our feedback is actually helpful or even being considered? There are many features Glu is implementing and asking feedback for, but for many past posts, I'm seeing people LOL like 350 times and it doesn't seem to be doing anything?
Here's a helpful and courteous tip to Glu: when you ask people for feedback and they LOL, they're really, really not laughing out of joy. They're ridiculing you and not in a good way. Translation: it's very negative feedback. Honestly, please just listen to the many concerns people are saying here. You don't have to implement every single thing everyone asks because I understand that's really difficult, but you can at least make an effort to do something about the majority of requests.
Kloset reorganization and 3 SYS tickets stacking. Or better yet, 4 tickets stacking. There are people on the other side of the world (bonjour) and it's heinous to expect them to wake up in the middle of the night to submit some random runway looks. It's horrible, horrible, horrible for their health. I occasionally stay up all night if I'm trying to meet any upcoming deadlines, and that alone gives me migraines and dizzy spells for days to follow. Imagine having to do that every. single. day. No way! No one should be doing that. I mean, is it THAT hard to increase the timer? From a coding point of view, all it takes is changing 2 to 3. Which is like 1 keystroke. If everything we say is going to fall on deaf ears, people are going to stop trying eventually and quit the game altogether. Many already have and people are warier about their purchases now since they know that you'll just steal from them anyway and dishonor their purchases. Won't be long before the rest of the players see this pattern and quit. Please Glu, just stop. You've done a lot of damage, but it's still not too late to change your ways.
Please honestly just LISTEN to us instead of coming up with brand new schemes that no one ever asked for. When there are so many bugs and glitches with existing features, why is inserting a brand new one such a bright idea? It just physically pains me to see a once good software getting blotched left and right. I'm honestly mourning for the death of engineering here. Glitches aren't fun to fix, I get it, but inserting new features really, really increases the risk of introducing newer and heavier glitches. And knowing Glu's history with little to nil testing, that's a 100% guarantee at this point. Please...just take your sweet time in fixing these things for us first. I'd be more willing to give Duets a try if the existing glitches weren't busy ruining my day.
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They should instead use version control, make some changes, and perform functional testing. Start with unit testing, where you test out, say, the SYS system. Then go with integration, where you check whether the changes you made to SYS affects any other aspects like k-stars, diamonds, tickets, or other parts of the game. Then check for usability, UX, etc. I mean I know you guys feel like you're on a roll to release new updates, but tbh, any update that's released without proper testing is just sloppy programming. Development is important but so is testing! In the meantime, you shouldn't let your users experience all the bugs! That's your job, most definitely not ours.
There's a saying in the programming world that goes something like this: "Assume that all users are dumb and useless. Assume that they don't know a thing about anything. They're here to use your service and move along." It's difficult, yes, but you shouldn't expect any user to share your burdens or responsibilities. Please perform proper testing, people! It's really not that hard. I'd rather a very delayed update (or none at all for months at a time) than get one riddled with messes.
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I just don't understand what goes on at glu HQ, like honestly. I don't know how many times we have asked to get the game fixed. I don't know a single game dev. that behaves like glu does. I play a shit amount of other mobile games and alll of them actually listen to their players, it's really not that hard and kind of your job glu. Instead of this feature thing, why not give the male doll players some new items.... alongside of everything else we did actually ask for?
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Will male clothing be included in Christmas boxes for female dolls?
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There are so many bad things about this. For me, the main problem is that WE NEED 3 SYS TICKETS TO STACK! We have been asking for it forever. It's very hard to log on every 6-12 hours, almost 24/7, to submit our free tickets. Many players set alarms in the middle of the night which is SO bad for our health. Now we will need to submit 2 looks per ticket? 4 looks every 12 hours? And that's just the minimum, quite a few ppl (myself included) have more than 1 game. Although I won't for long with this new idea.
Also not excited at the prospect of getting 0/5. Why is 0 even an option? Imagine making 2 whole looks, only to get 0 "hearts".
What a train wreck.
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I really hate the sound of this 1st one, being called "Power Couple" suggests a romance theme & it leaves a lot of space for homophobia. I think lots of ppl will instinctively vote for a male / female couple over 2 men or 2 women, not on purpose but it will just draw peoples eye, the same way that fair skin or blonde hair does for example. And there are ppl who do think couples should be men & women, young kids playing who aren't exposed to same sex relationships, plus KKH is available in countries where same sex relationships and marriage is illegal. So I'm concerned about that, that we'll see a trend where same sex pairings score lower. I personally do not have the emotional energy for that, I see it enough IRL.
Also I don't like that different gender pairings will be pitted against each other. It would be better if its the same pairing being voted on eg male/male vs male/male, just like we never have female and male dolls against each other in SYS anymore.
Like lots of others players, I'm not interested in men's fashion & don't want to be winning clothes than can only be worn by a male doll. This will also be a huge disadvantage for free players who can't afford to buy a new kstar wardrobe for NPCs. Introducing this before the biggest sale of the year is the definition of reading the room wrong.
I am imagining the possibilities and none of them seem good.
glu - ok, ok, how about TWO dolls though
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- I doubt that a heart rating will make things better. The issue is with the algorithm, so changing the way we vote (score out of 5 vs. the current 👍👎) is probably not going to help.
- the whole "male clothes vs female clothes", and judging straight couples against queer couples, is a big red flag for me as a genderqueer person. I'm worried about homophobia in the VB, and I don't like how transphobic this whole things sounds. I don't think I can participate in this for those reasons. Like, I would actually love to put "male" clothes on my "female" doll, just as much as I am excited about a vampire dress, but being reminded that I can't is not great for me.
- I don't want to collect "male" clothing if I can't use it for my doll-- I get that it's all about the clothing being programmed to specific body types (2 of the many), but... I never liked the clothes being separated to begin with.
- All the glitches in the VB this past month make sense now... but seriously, Glu needs to acknowledge what's been happening and compensate players with some of the things we've asked for. This new idea seems like more stress/work when SYS is stressful enough right now. Sorry about it 😔
Thanks for your work @KalindaKing and the team but I'm not super happy about this.
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Then for me there is really no reason to enter ANY duet SYS, NONE!
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Here's a helpful and courteous tip to Glu: when you ask people for feedback and they LOL, they're really, really not laughing out of joy. They're ridiculing you and not in a good way. Translation: it's very negative feedback. Honestly, please just listen to the many concerns people are saying here. You don't have to implement every single thing everyone asks because I understand that's really difficult, but you can at least make an effort to do something about the majority of requests.
Kloset reorganization and 3 SYS tickets stacking. Or better yet, 4 tickets stacking. There are people on the other side of the world (bonjour) and it's heinous to expect them to wake up in the middle of the night to submit some random runway looks. It's horrible, horrible, horrible for their health. I occasionally stay up all night if I'm trying to meet any upcoming deadlines, and that alone gives me migraines and dizzy spells for days to follow. Imagine having to do that every. single. day. No way! No one should be doing that.
I mean, is it THAT hard to increase the timer? From a coding point of view, all it takes is changing 2 to 3. Which is like 1 keystroke. If everything we say is going to fall on deaf ears, people are going to stop trying eventually and quit the game altogether. Many already have and people are warier about their purchases now since they know that you'll just steal from them anyway and dishonor their purchases. Won't be long before the rest of the players see this pattern and quit. Please Glu, just stop. You've done a lot of damage, but it's still not too late to change your ways.
Please honestly just LISTEN to us instead of coming up with brand new schemes that no one ever asked for. When there are so many bugs and glitches with existing features, why is inserting a brand new one such a bright idea? It just physically pains me to see a once good software getting blotched left and right. I'm honestly mourning for the death of engineering here. Glitches aren't fun to fix, I get it, but inserting new features really, really increases the risk of introducing newer and heavier glitches. And knowing Glu's history with little to nil testing, that's a 100% guarantee at this point. Please...just take your sweet time in fixing these things for us first. I'd be more willing to give Duets a try if the existing glitches weren't busy ruining my day.
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